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To: NYer
Msgr Pope...hearkening back to my 11 years of Catholic school it seems to me that,when it comes to politicians at least,the Church should make it clear that if you support abortion you have excommunicated yourself if you voice support for it or vote in favor of it.And if a Pelosi,or a Kerry or a Kennedy should attempt to take communion they should be refused.And the same could also be enforced for ordinary voters who knowingly vote for those who support abortion.
14 posted on 11/07/2012 1:27:02 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I have absolutely no doubt that Obama will go to war against the Catholic Church in America.

I also have no doubt who the winner will be.

Stand strong and take up your cross.

15 posted on 11/07/2012 1:33:02 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: Gay State Conservative
when it comes to politicians at least,the Church should make it clear that if you support abortion you have excommunicated yourself if you voice support for it or vote in favor of it

You're right but the problem is much deeper. According to exit polls, Obama won Catholic voters 50 percent to 47 percent! That's an alarming number but when you dig deeper into the stats, you discover that Catholics who attend Mass weekly seem to have favored Romney.

Like Judaism, Catholicism is now considered by many as a birth rite. The thinking goes something like this: "since I was baptized into the Catholic Church, even if I don't attend weekly mass, I am a Catholic". These CINOs, many of whom have never been educated in their faith, vote the popular view, while still identifying as catholics. That skews election results based on religious affiliation. How many of these "catholics" would truly accept the teachings of the faith into which they were baptized?

Even in our very small parish, we see the phenomenon of families with children suddenly showing up at church, interested in having them baptized and receiving First Communion. The pastor has done a wonderful job of advising them on their responsibilities as parents and educating the children in the faith. But then, once they have completed a year of education, received First Communion, poof, they disappear.

Let's be realistic about contemporary society. Yesterday's election confirmed something many of us find hard to accept: Government has replaced God in the eyes of the needy. Sports, birthday parties, sleepovers, et al. have replaced Sunday Mass for many families with children. Your thoughts?

16 posted on 11/07/2012 1:54:12 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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