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Case Against 'Innocence of Muslims' Filmmaker Raises Eyebrows
The Blaze ^ | 11/19/2012 | by Adam Turner

Posted on 11/23/2012 10:03:41 PM PST by forty_years

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, (or Mark Basseley Youssef) the American Coptic filmmaker partly responsible for the film clip that President Barack Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice initially and incorrectly blamed for inciting the terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi that killed the American Ambassador and three other Americans, was recently sentenced to a one year prison term for violating his probation.

On September 27, in the midst of the tumult in the Muslim world, Nakoula was arrested in the middle of the night from his home in the Los Angeles area for violating his probation for a 2010 bank-fraud conviction. The media was conveniently present to record his "perp walk" to the Sheriff's office, which was broadcast worldwide. Nakoula spent slightly over a month in solitary confinement, being held without bond at the Los Angeles Metropolitan Detention Center. On November 7, the day after the U.S. elections, his trial was finally held. He admitted to lying to his probation officer and three allegations of using false identities in exchange for his prosecutors dropping four allegations of using false identities. Nakoula was sentenced to one year in prison, instead of the two years recommended by his probation officers. The judge specifically rejected the idea of home confinement.

Now, Mr. Nakoula is certainly no prize as a human being. He has an extensive, but non-violent, criminal background. In 1997, he pled guilty to intent to manufacture methamphetamine and was sentenced to one year in county jail and three years of probation (but not parole). In 2002, Mr. Nakoula violated his drug probation and was re-sentenced to another year in jail. In 2010, he pled guilty to a bank fraud crime, and was sentenced to twenty-one months in prison to be followed by another five years of probation. Nakoula was guilty to check kiting, as he had opened bank accounts using fake names and stolen Social Security numbers and deposited checks from those accounts to later withdraw money from.

In mid-September, after Nakoula was revealed as someone involved in the film, his probation officials in the Central District of California charged him with eight counts of violations, and recommended a twenty four month term to Magistrate Judge Suzanne Segal. Judge Segal ruled that since Nakoula had failed to prove he wasn't a flight risk, he would have to stay in prison till his probation revocation hearing, justifying this decision because Nakoula "engaged in a likely pattern of deception both to his probation officers and the court" and "(t)he court has a lack of trust in this defendant at this time."

But, with all that admitted, the questions remain: Would Nakoula be back in prison had he not offended the sensibilities of Islamists worldwide and of an Administration that seems to cater to their continuing criticism of free speech that is critical of Islam? Is Nakoula's disposition the kind of politically-tilted treatment the Framers would have thought should be given bedrock free speech rights? There seems to be strong evidence that his (albeit) legitimate case was processed to appease Islamists and others who opposed his speech on Islam. Certainly, his probation revocation process after arrest and the Judge's ruling were somewhat nontraditional. In most federal cases, the probation officer submits a confidential report to the sentencing judge, "who then can pursue a probation revocation hearing – a mini-trial of sorts – where probation officials must prove the violation. If the judge finds the individual in violation, the court can return the defendant to probation, send him to prison or impose additional terms of probation without prison time. Normal cases can move very quickly – sometimes taking days – once a probation officer has prepared a report…" In this instance, however, the political and diplomatic ramifications resulted in a long delay. Also, the decision by the federal officials to publicize the original arrest of Nakoula and stage a very guilty looking perp walk seems somewhat peculiar. The prosecutors, who should have avoided bringing up the film and the violence in the Muslim world in court for First Amendment reasons, nonetheless did so.

In addition, as noted by journalist Kerry Picket, abnormal staffing decisions were made by the prosecution. The prosecutor was Assistant U.S. Attorney Robert Rugdale, who is second in command of the U.S. Attorney's (USA) Office below U.S. Attorney Andre Birotte. Birotte, of course, is appointed by the President. Ms. Picket found this "curious" since Assistant U.S. Atty. Jennifer Williams, who helped prosecute Mr. Nakoula's bank fraud conviction, would normally have been chosen to deal with this case. And it is even more unusual for Mr. Nakoula's probation violation case, for no explained reason – the USA office refused to comment on this staffing matter – to be kicked up to the number two prosecutor in the office.

A number of prominent legal minds have remarked on the suspicious nature of Mr. Nakoula's probation violation case. Mark Werksman, a defense attorney in Los Angeles and a former federal prosecutor spectacularly claimed that "(t)his case breaks the mold. If the video hadn't gone viral, and caused the Arabic world to blow up, who would care if this guy is using YouTube? It's all about politics with this guy." Law Professor Lawrence Rosenthal was quoted as acknowledging that it is "highly unusual" for a judge to order immediate detention on a probation violation for a nonviolent crime, but then he qualified his statement, continuing that if there were questions about Nakoula's identity it was more likely (but not necessarily "usual").

Jonathan Turley, a law professor who specializes in First Amendment jurisprudence, has said that "(v)iolations of probation conditions are quite common and rarely result in re-incarceration. Probation terms tend to be sweeping and most such violations result in warnings or brief appearances before the court." Turley has also written: "(f)rom my experience as a criminal defense attorney, the violations described in a case of his kind rarely warrant the 24-month term demanded for Nakoula Basseley Nakoula. In addition, the federal authorities insisted on his being jailed as a flight risk, though it is unclear why that is the case and why he could not be given an electronic bracelet." Former federal prosecutor Bill Otis has confirmed that, based on his decades of service, "probation violators routinely get a pass on violations far more serious and suggestive of renewed criminality than making a perfectly legal (and, some would think, First Amendment-protected) video."

And then, there is what may be the "smoking gun" in this case. Charles Woods, the father of one of the four Americans killed in Benghazi, has alleged that Secretary of State Clinton approached him at the Benghazi victim's memorial to promise to bring to justice, not the Islamist terrorists who killed his son, but Mr. Nakoula. As Pseudonymous blogger Allahpundit of Hot Air says, if true:

That's perverse, but in keeping with the fact that she (Clinton) decided to run ads on Pakistani TV apologizing for the film while Islamist cretins menaced American diplomats across the region. Even if you give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that she had no intention of prosecuting the filmmaker but was merely telling Woods something she thought would console him, why on earth would she zero in on the filmmaker as the target of blame instead of the degenerates who actually shot his son?

The answer to this question may be that the Obama Administration is less than fond of free speech that "slanders" Islam. In his now infamous Cairo speech in 2009 Obama told an Egyptian Muslim audience, including the Muslim Brotherhood, on foreign soil that he considers "it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear." In the aftermath of the Muslim world's protests to the video, Obama told the UN General Assembly that "(t)he future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Nakoula was arrested the following day.

During the past year, of the 10,823 adults under supervision in the federal probation system, only 829 had their probation revoked for technical reasons. Usually the violations that attract the attention of the courts are those that involve violence, drugs, or other serious unwholesome behavior. Nakoula Basseley Nakoula has been sentenced to a year in prison for probation violations that are none of these. His case stinks to high heaven, with its slow process, the prosecution's demand for serious prison time, the very public arrest, the decision by the U.S. Attorney's office to have a senior prosecutor handle the case, and the judge's decision to imprison immediately without any bail. Then, there is the statement by the Secretary of State, whose position, unless I am misremembering my American government classes, does not have jurisdiction over domestic criminal matters. And let's not forget that the government's very public identification and prosecution of Nakoula – done for his speech, and not for his probation violations – has actually endangered his life, and that of his family's, even forcing them to flee their own home.

I would love to believe that this case, and this criminal sentence, is totally focused on Mr. Nakoula's actual probation violations, and has nothing to do with the film he wrote about Muhammed. I would love to believe this, but the surrounding circumstances are just too suspicious.

Adam Turner serves as staff counsel to the Endowment for Middle East Truth (EMET) and the Legal Project at the Middle East Forum. He is a former counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee where he focused on national security law.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Islam; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; 20120927; 20121107; benghazi; blasphemylaw; constitution; firstamendment; freespeech; innocenceofmuslims; islam; islamofascism; islamophobia; markbasselyyoussef; markyoussef; nakoula; nakoulanakoula; navyseals; obama; speech; susanrice; threatmatrix; youssef
...the Obama Administration is less than fond of free speech that "slanders" Islam. In his now infamous Cairo speech in 2009 Obama told an Egyptian Muslim audience, including the Muslim Brotherhood, on foreign soil that he considers "it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear." In the aftermath of the Muslim world's protests to the video, Obama told the UN General Assembly that "(t)he future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Nakoula was arrested the following day.
1 posted on 11/23/2012 10:03:55 PM PST by forty_years
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To: forty_years

BTTT


2 posted on 11/23/2012 10:23:07 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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Chill out. King Barry is going to give out free contraceptives and probably free Viagra as well. All you have to do in return is ignore the First Amendment rights to free exercise of religion and freedom of speech. /sarc

Given the small number of people upset over the HHS mandate it's obviously a fair trade so move along, nothing to see here.

3 posted on 11/23/2012 10:26:29 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: forty_years

Well, well. All the NSA/CIA would have to do is steal Nakoula’s video and redub it and then reupload it to youtube and boom, excuse for anything.


4 posted on 11/23/2012 10:28:41 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: forty_years
the Obama Administration is less than fond of free speech that "slanders" Islam

Related thread:

State Dept Official Attends OIC Meeting on Banning ‘Defamation of Islam’ UPDATE: OIC Scrubs Website

5 posted on 11/23/2012 11:33:36 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: forty_years; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; ...

This article moves even further away from the truth and further and further from why the film and the film MAKER matters.
The film MAKER is not a Copt, he is a muslim with connections to the brotherhood, and he was born in Egypt. His partner was a falsestinian terrorist...who just happens to be the first cousin of Walid Shoebat.
He is ALSO an fbi asset since he pled guilty to bank fraud years ago.
The first mention of him in relation to this film was that he was a billionaire Israeli Jew...and that the film cost millions of dollars to produce. WHY?
And why, when it was discovered, (quite by accident,) that the still unidentified guy was not a Jew, was he then defined as a disgruntled Copt? Neither story is true.
WHY did the American Embassy in Cairo send their people home early and APOLOGIZE for the film before any demonstration had ever taken place?
WHY, if not to give the brotherhood a completely fabricated reason to protest the American Embassy in Cairo which set off the entire ME and gave COVER for the ultimate murderous attack on Benghazi and Ambassador Stevens?
The film MAKER is in jail not because they want to punish his freedom of speech via the film, but to make absolutely sure that he never tells the truth about the film’s origination, who commissioned it, or why.
He might not have ever known why. It seemed like a simple enough thing for him to do. He didn’t have to have a reason except that he was told to do it by his handlers and they paid for it. No one was ever supposed to know who he was. That might be the entire extent of his involvement UNTIL Walid Shoebat identified him. THEN it became the first order of business by the FBI to get this guy out of sight. Gone.
Do NOT allow yourselves to be misled. Every dot in this saga connects. If you lose one or two, you forfeit the truth.

PING!


6 posted on 11/23/2012 11:39:47 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: forty_years

bttt


7 posted on 11/23/2012 11:43:21 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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8 posted on 11/23/2012 11:51:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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Interesting that Nakoula the film maker is also a FedMob stooge.

Producer Of Anti-Islam Film Was Fed Snitch
L.A. man began cooperating after 2009 fraud bust

Interesting that Nakoula's websites track back to connections with 0bama.

Proof Positive - In My Opinion (who created Innocence of Muslims)(Obama)

Interesting that Nakoula's partner in the film was a palestinian Muslim with terrorist connections who was also watched by the Feds for three decades but never arrested and frequently bailed out by the Feds.

Why is the Coptic Christian filmmaker partners in crime with Coptic Christian hater?

Innocence of Muslims made by Terrorists

Nikoula and Eiad may have made the film.
Someone else has been handling distribution and promotions.

9 posted on 11/23/2012 11:53:09 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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There were four versions of Nakoula's movie.

Only the final one was forwarded, by persons unknown, to Sheikh Khalid Abdullah the cleric in Cairo who aired it on TV. Nakoula, the maker of the original film, was not the one who uploaded the final version, Innocence of Muslims, to the internet.

You can hear some interesting things about the timeline of all these iterations of "the movie" in the Youtube video linked below. Start at 9:30 and watch to 16:00 for the meat of that.

False Flag, Currently Underway ?

Even the protests and attack in Cairo weren't about that stupid 'video.'

Brian Lilley: The MSM is lying about the muslim riots
Interviews on the streets of Cairo. 'Video' had nothing to do with protests and attack.

10 posted on 11/23/2012 11:55:07 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: MestaMachine

Cleartext:

He was hired by Obama to facilitate the murder of Israel, and he’ll be killed by Obama. Dead men tell no tales.


11 posted on 11/24/2012 12:02:18 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: forty_years

Coming soon: speech controls.


12 posted on 11/24/2012 12:42:29 AM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: MestaMachine

“The film MAKER is in jail not because they want to punish his freedom of speech via the film, but to make absolutely sure that he never tells the truth about the film’s origination, who commissioned it, or why.”

Spot on!!!!


13 posted on 11/24/2012 12:49:05 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: Hardraade

That is only one head of the hydra. I personally do not believe that obama was entirely in this loop. This is a state department op and has been from the start all the way up to the minute. obama is too stupid to be anything more than a muslim stooge. He follows orders. He doesn’t give them.
It was state which made ALL of the decisions regarding Benghazi including taking away their security...and state is the clintons. BOTH of them.
There is an unholy trinity at work here. Saying it was all obama is far too simple and wrong. If you stop at obama, you will never find where the road leads let alone the end of the road.
obama is the lowest on the trinity totem pole. The clintons are second. And the boss is getting ready to croak leaving billy in charge. I don’t know if justice can ever be done here.


14 posted on 11/24/2012 2:16:59 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: MestaMachine

But Obama only had the final operational lever on Benghazi. So the actual murder implementation is on him.


15 posted on 11/24/2012 2:31:17 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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And that is the great beauty and evil genious of it all. hillary still looks heroic, billy SEEMS to be just a happy, filthy-rich ex-president, and they are bringing jeb along quite nicely. The boss and the clintons have been trying to murder Israel for years and years and years.


16 posted on 11/24/2012 2:49:40 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: MestaMachine

“The film MAKER is in jail not because they want to punish his freedom of speech via the film, but to make absolutely sure that he never tells the truth about the film’s origination, who commissioned it, or why.”

He’s being held incommunicado? Isn’t that illegal?


17 posted on 11/24/2012 3:20:41 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: forty_years
1400 years - 270 innocents murdered by the "prophet" followers!!!

Why Should We Fear Islam? Dr. Bill Warner

The whole administration is stocked with islamic sympatizers!!!

Can It All Be Coincidence?

18 posted on 11/24/2012 3:39:40 AM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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Two words:

National Security.


19 posted on 11/24/2012 3:45:30 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: forty_years
1400 years - 270 MILLION innocents murdered by "the prophet" followers!!!

Why Should We Fear Islam? Dr. Bill Warner

The whole administration is stocked with islamic sympatizers!!!

Can It All Be Coincidence?

20 posted on 11/24/2012 3:51:04 AM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: forty_years

American shariah. It is here and will steadily spread.


21 posted on 11/24/2012 5:52:10 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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22 posted on 11/24/2012 6:17:30 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: MestaMachine

Great reporting...!


23 posted on 11/24/2012 8:21:16 AM PST by gaijin
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To: TigersEye

Great reporting! This thread is amazing.


24 posted on 11/24/2012 8:41:41 AM PST by gaijin
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To: vanilla swirl

Here's the perp.
25 posted on 11/24/2012 8:47:49 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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MM, I’m still fuzzy on what the end game was supposed to be here. Presumably, there was a CIA-managed gun running operation involved, yes? I’ve read that it was the guns and weapons we provided to the Libyan rebels (AKA Muslim Brotherhood/Al Quaida), and that Chris Stephens was supposed to be negotiating (as in paying) to get the weapons back so the gun running operation would never come to light. Then I’ve also read that the gun running involved transferring the US-supplied weapons from the Libyan-based jihadists to the Syrian-based jihadists. Then I’ve also read that the plot was supposed to result in the kidnapping of Amb Stephens so that Ozero could “negotiate” for his return, and possibly the release of the Blind Sheik in exchange.

I’m of the impression that no scenario involving MB/Al Quaida jihadis occurs without the involvement of Iran somewhere in the picture.

What are your thoughts here? One or none of the above, some combination of these, or something else entirely?


26 posted on 11/24/2012 9:52:30 AM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: forty_years; MestaMachine

I just noticed that this thread has been moved to the religion forum...which makes no sense to me at all.


27 posted on 11/24/2012 9:53:56 AM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: forty_years
"“There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." ― Ayn Rand
28 posted on 11/24/2012 9:55:25 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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Thanks. Can’t let the propaganda stand.


29 posted on 11/24/2012 11:35:08 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Rashputin

Barack “Stand Down” Obama, the Hero of Benghazi and Defender of the Faith. Peace be Upon Him!


30 posted on 11/24/2012 11:37:31 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: MestaMachine
I personally do not believe that obama was entirely in this loop. This is a state department op and has been from the start all the way up to the minute.

I agree. Absolutely. Hillbilly was the first to start apologizing for the 'video.' The whole thing sounds like the kind of demented plan she would come up with.

31 posted on 11/24/2012 11:38:51 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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Typically inmates can write or make collect calls to the media. Also, reasonable requests from the media for interviews are frequently granted.

This “parole violated” will be afforded none of those opportunities.
He won’t see sunshine until 2017.


32 posted on 11/24/2012 11:41:15 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: lonevoice
I just noticed that this thread has been moved to the religion forum...which makes no sense to me at all.

That is rather bizarre.

33 posted on 11/24/2012 11:42:27 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: struggle; All

And .. just as I suspected .. the WH is possibly connected with putting this obsecure video on U-Tube - SO THEY COULD USE IT AS A COVER UP TO THE TERRORIST ATTACK - AND THE MURDER OF 4 AMERICANS.

YES, I’M SCREAMING .. I’M SO ANGRY.

That’s why it took them 5 days to give their “story” about what happened. These people need to resign.


34 posted on 11/24/2012 1:42:07 PM PST by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: lonevoice; MestaMachine

I’m only a laymen, but IMHO, the entire “spring” operation is just a continuation of a 20 (?) year string of revolutions engineered by the usual suspects.

USAID/State/CIA/NGOs have well-documented coordinated efforts.

(NGOs==the usual suspects).

They publicly document strategies of how to get their “development” to work in the mideast. This is just “progress”, everyone get out of the way.

Obviously this particular operation had a “hitch”. U.S. gov’t employees and contractors are simply pawns in the minds of the “planners” of the “overall plans”. Of course, if the jihadis had wanted the Ambassador dead, they would have not tried to smoke him out, they would have tossed a few grenades through that locked steel grate door. And why would a POTUS not give the go-ahead to save an Ambassador ? That’s the question that’s not asked. Every other question is asked, with no satisfactory answer. But why did POTUS not give the order ? (If he did, that means the military failed - but no one has yet said the military failed).

Not to worry, just pressure your Congressmen to vote no on everything, and to keep up the pressure on the administration, and break every story they can via hearings, etc. Dig for links of this to that, send them to your Congressmen, post them here.

IMHO.


35 posted on 11/24/2012 8:10:23 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: MestaMachine

What boss is getting ready to croak?

I’m wondering if 0moslem’s too-obvious-to-hide nervous breakdown will be sooner rather than later. If he’s actually doing a lot of cocaine which may be the case, another thread got into it, then nervous breakdown land may not be far away.


36 posted on 11/24/2012 8:59:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: MestaMachine

This thread has some discussion about possible cocaine use:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2961793/posts


37 posted on 11/24/2012 9:04:05 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: PieterCasparzen
And why would a POTUS not give the go-ahead to save an Ambassador ? That’s the question that’s not asked. Every other question is asked, with no satisfactory answer. But why did POTUS not give the order ? (If he did, that means the military failed - but no one has yet said the military failed).

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. That really is THE question. The media, even Fox News, kept us all so distracted with shiny objects - Patreaus Affair! Florida Socialite Twins! Susan Rice Talking Points! - it's obvious the objective is to make the public forget the important questions.

I've been so enraged and frustrated since we first heard about this, and can barely stand it that we still don't know why four American citizens were abandoned, betrayed and murdered. After the initial Pulitzer-worthy investigative reporting of Jennifer Griffen, even she was derailed with stories of the bimbo eruptions.

38 posted on 11/24/2012 9:32:16 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: PieterCasparzen; lonevoice

I have a lot to say on this subject, but today I haven’t been able to stay online for longer than two seconds and now it’s late. So tomorrow, I will try to answer you guys as best as I can.


39 posted on 11/25/2012 12:42:16 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: little jeremiah

george herbert walker bush. EX cia director. Ex ambassador to China. Ex vice president. Ex president. Best friend of bill since Mena days smuggling cocaine, now GW’s ‘adopted brother’. Noriega’s handler. Head honcho of the calisle group whose headquarters is in Qatar. Anti-semite who has been trying to get rid of Israel for decades.
Ask yourself in all honesty, what did his son, ‘friend of Israel’, GWB, EVER do for Israel except cost them more land, all of gaza to be exact? And why is Ariel Sharon, who trusted him, more dead than alive?
I could cite you chapter and verse of the US government’s attempted betrayals of Israel, but not tonight.


40 posted on 11/25/2012 12:59:02 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: MestaMachine

calisle
carlisle
Gah!


41 posted on 11/25/2012 1:00:15 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: MestaMachine

Everything you say makes sense.

What we need is a huge clean sweep. And I think we will get one.


42 posted on 11/25/2012 8:43:18 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: forty_years

“My Muslim faith” bump


43 posted on 12/01/2012 9:11:47 PM PST by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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BUMP


44 posted on 05/22/2013 11:18:46 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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