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The Most Powerful Bible Resource Ever Available
Brandon Vogt Blog ^ | 11/29/12 | Brandon Vogt

Posted on 11/29/2012 12:44:22 PM PST by marshmallow

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To: Rashputin
So, yes, Physician heal thyself of the hypocrisy you're neck deep in.

I must do things your way OR I'm a hypocrite? I see. I don't pretend the non-Catholic crowd are the only ones who read the Bible, so you're wrong there. Whether to follow extra-Biblical edicts and interpretations of your church OR the Plain Truths of the Bible is my choice. My soul is on the line you see. As far as which version of Scripture is canonical, each must choose their own stairway to Heaven. Let God judge and not man what is in their heart.

21 posted on 11/29/2012 3:50:27 PM PST by BipolarBob (Never lick a gift horse in the mouth.)
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To: BipolarBob
The Bible is the Bible as it was at the time of the Apostles. If you claim to routinely read the Bible but only accept a subset of the Bible, you are a hypocrite no matter what I do. It's not a matter of doing what I do, it's a matter of basic honesty.

It's also not a matter of “each must choose”, that's total nonsense as anyone who reads the Scriptures knows. That's as absurd as the Cafeteria Catholic crowd who do what they damn well please and claim they're still faithful Catholics. They may fool themselves but they're not fooling the Jesus Christ nor are those who pretend they can accept a subset of Scripture and have the same relationship to Christ as those who accept all of His Word.

As I said, non-Catholics need to fish or cut bait.

They should either accept the entire Bible or throw out portions of the NT and admit they accept the ‘Luther Subset of the Bible’ because they don't want to accept His Word the same way Eve didn't want to accept His Word.

22 posted on 11/29/2012 4:23:43 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Non-Catholics read a subset of the Bible and ignore the balance of the Scriptures.


23 posted on 11/29/2012 4:30:02 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: BipolarBob
It's always funny to see a poster with both of their feet in their mouth mumbling about the need for an ignore button.

Obviously some such folk not only stuff their feet in their mouth they also clearly never read the rules for the Religion Forum, either.

It figures, that's the very sort of people who follow Eve rather than Christ and make up their own little religion they pretend is Christianity. In reality, though, their little personal religion is nothing other than their worship of their own, Most High and Holy Self.

25 posted on 11/29/2012 4:50:50 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I attended 11 yrs of catholic education. only bible verses i heard was for 3 minutes at mass. still Catholic but am now reading it.


26 posted on 11/29/2012 5:12:59 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Stegall Tx; marshmallow; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleberg
However, this type of software is killing our (myself included) ability to do real, serious scholarship. It makes it too easy to find little factoids just as you need them, and most of us (myself included) do not commit the kind of study time required to make ourselves true scholars of the Word.

Could I make a suggestion: T. David Gordon, Reformed Worship in the Electronic Age. Four lectures on media ecology (with special reference, eventually, to issues of worship). The first lecture and a half or so are background on media ecology. Highly recommended*.

If that's too long, check out his short piece on Education and Electronic Media. Same stuff, smaller bite.

Our tools, in this case our communications media, shape us. It behooves us to be aware of it. Electronic media seem to be uniquely stupifying. Uniquely powerful, but we flail around like cats chasing a laser dot. I'm not sure there are good answers, and I grope for Christian wisdom on the topic.

(I volunteered to do a presentation on "technology and distraction" for men's group at church, little knowing how big the topic was.

A ping to a few other saints that might be interested.)

*Though I think he overstates the scarcity of writing materials in a chirographic culture. He seems to think parchment is all there was to write on, prior to Gutenberg.

27 posted on 11/29/2012 6:08:55 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Rashputin
People with limited attention spans to begin with aren’t helped by automated tools that let them substitute apparent depth for required breadth.

Use of automated tools itself can shrink the attention span.

"Hey look! A Wikipedia article!"

28 posted on 11/29/2012 6:10:41 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: BipolarBob
We need an “Ignore” button.

I remember talk, years back, of a FR forum software upgrade that would allow that. I guess it never materialized.

29 posted on 11/29/2012 6:12:51 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Lee N. Field

I just need to do the ignore function myself. I took his bait and I usually don’t but . . . sometimes the flesh is weak. I’m okay now.


30 posted on 11/29/2012 6:41:03 PM PST by BipolarBob (Never lick a gift horse in the mouth.)
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To: Lee N. Field; Stegall Tx; marshmallow; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleberg

Let’s take this a step further...

Enter any number of churches and what do you see?

Huge screens flashing lyrics to the hymn or praise tune with a serene backdrop of some type. It’s not the same as interacting with book. You look towards the front to see the screen and there are any number of distractions that will take your attention away from the lyrics.


31 posted on 11/29/2012 7:36:45 PM PST by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock
One reason I simply refuse to watch video clips during a service of worship.

The farther along I get, the more of an iconoclast I'm turning out to be.

It’s not the same as interacting with book.

And, of course, you could argue (and I might) that even "interacting with a book" is not what people would have done through vast stretches of the history of the church. Memorized hymnody, most likely, or a precentor.

Yup, I need to read Old's book on the history of worship again.

32 posted on 11/29/2012 8:30:39 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: roamer_1

Very well stated, and I should have qualified my generalizations. Of course there are some people who are able to do better with digital resources. I should not have generalized so broadly.

Now, the next question is how do I teach my students to be better scholars using these tools? That is quite a question that I have not yet answered. And, since I teach computers for a living, it is one that I should spend a lot of time answering.


33 posted on 11/29/2012 9:16:06 PM PST by Stegall Tx (Living off your tax dollars can be kinda fun, but not terribly profitable.)
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To: Lee N. Field

Thank you very much for the links. I will definitely add them to my Christmas Break Reading List. And I should move them to the top of the list.


34 posted on 11/29/2012 9:17:53 PM PST by Stegall Tx (Living off your tax dollars can be kinda fun, but not terribly profitable.)
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To: Lee N. Field
One reason I simply refuse to watch video clips during a service of worship.

Or why, whenever I do one of my frequent moves, I don't join a church that has screens.

35 posted on 11/30/2012 4:24:44 AM PST by Gamecock
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