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To: vladimir998

I read yours and it didm;t even bother to address directly anything I had said....except to state that “Christmas” is not pagan. Now it is nice that you make a statement with no proof but there is more than enough history of ‘Christmas” to say that it is pagan....not only is origin ( as is Easter) but in the ‘choice’ of date.

Your current response is not only snarky but without any proof what so ever.

Naming of the day of the week while carrying names from ancient mythologies (Woden, Frigge, Thor, Saturday) does not a celebration make. That is illogical as a construct and really has nothing to do with anything in either the original post or my response to it.

You apparently do not know enough of your own faith to even know the history of the times in which certain events occurred. To bad, it might help you to a deeper understanding.

Don’t bother to respond I don’t want your blood pressure to get any higher than it already is... and I won’t engage any further with the disarmed


44 posted on 12/02/2012 3:09:33 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

You wrote:

“I read yours and it didm;t even bother to address directly anything I had said....except to state that “Christmas” is not pagan. Now it is nice that you make a statement with no proof but there is more than enough history of ‘Christmas” to say that it is pagan....not only is origin ( as is Easter) but in the ‘choice’ of date.”

False. 1) The proof is that it is CHRIST’S MASS. No pagan celebrated CHRIST’S MASS. As I noted, pagans celebrated their own things on December 25. CHRIST’S MASS was never one of them. Only Christians celebrated that. The fact that you can’t see such an obvious point does not bode well. 2) As the early Christians themselves tell us, December 25th was chosen TO OPPOSE PAGAN CELEBRATIONS. Thus, Christmas is doubly NOT pagan. It was not only a celebration of Christ, but it was chosen in opposition to paganism. 3) Easter is nothing but the Christian Pascha. It is only called Easter in Germanic language speaking countries. In itself Pascha has no connections to paganism at all.

“Your current response is not only snarky but without any proof what so ever.”

Again, CHRIST’S MASS is obvious. No pagan celebrated CHRIST’S MASS.

“Naming of the day of the week while carrying names from ancient mythologies (Woden, Frigge, Thor, Saturday) does not a celebration make. That is illogical as a construct and really has nothing to do with anything in either the original post or my response to it.”

Actually it has everything to do with it. Pagans named the days in honor of gods. We retain those names, but we deny any act of honoring the gods. On the 25th we celebrate Christmas - CHRIST’S MASS - and not any pagan celebration for which that date might have been previously known.

“You apparently do not know enough of your own faith to even know the history of the times in which certain events occurred.”

That’s hilarious. I am a professional Church Historian. What are your credentials? Oh, that’s right, you post on the internet about things which you apparently know nothing about.

“To bad, it might help you to a deeper understanding.”

My understanding is apparently much deeper than yours.

“Don’t bother to respond I don’t want your blood pressure to get any higher than it already is”

My blood pressure is actually very good. Laughter helps. I’m laughing at your posts quite a bit as a matter of fact.

“... and I won’t engage any further with the disarmed”

Yeah, like I said, what are your bona fides on this? I suggest you don’t come to a gun fight armed only with a spork again.


48 posted on 12/02/2012 4:19:36 PM PST by vladimir998
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