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Who Knew ‘Les Misérables’ Had a Christian Message?
The Christian Diarist ^ | December 30, 2012 | JP

Posted on 12/30/2012 7:05:20 AM PST by CHRISTIAN DIARIST

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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

It actually was a wonderful movie! I always wondered when they would make the musical into a movie. I had seen three different movies made on the story, One in the old days, an old black/white one w/Valjean played by Frederick March, one where he’s played by Phillip Jourdan (?), and the one in 1998, w/Liam Neeson.

All were good, and so was the 10 anniversary concert, w/Colin Wilkinson (who, incidentally, played the kindly Bishop in the movie!)My two daughters took me to see it last night, and both younger women were crying during it, I had tears too! The younger one, particularly, was a fan of the play for a long time. She had a cd disk of the play, and a VHS of the 10th anniversary concert. I’d heard of the newer 25th anniversary of the concert, but hadn’t seen it.

We both enjoyed those when she was still in high school about 12 years ago. She couldn’t wait to see the movie! The older one had seen the 1980 t.v. movie and liked it, but hadn’t heard the play, or seen the concert based on it. She’s usually not a real big fan of musicals or operettas like that. But she did enjoy the movie a lot more than she thought she would!


21 posted on 12/30/2012 9:00:39 AM PST by dsutah
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To: 9YearLurker

Well that’s your choice and mine is to avoid giving my money to Hollywood leftists like Anne Hathaway, an avowed socialist who protested with the OWS goons in Union square and gave the profits of her wedding photo publications to pro gay causes.
If English actors choose to be liberal, they can do it in the UK. If American actors diss MY country and take anti American, anti capitalist stances in the process, then yes, I take offense and will not support them by seeing their stupid movies.


22 posted on 12/30/2012 9:29:20 AM PST by Mountain Mary (Pray for our Republic...)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I would no spend a dime watching this and enriching leftists in Hollyweird


23 posted on 12/30/2012 9:37:43 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dsutah

Les Miserables with Jean-Paul Belmondo is pretty amazing. It is set in Nazi Germany war times and loosely refers to the universal themes in original Les Miserables. It is one of my favorite movies, but rather hard to find.


24 posted on 12/30/2012 9:39:31 AM PST by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: Mountain Mary

I’m a huge Les Mis fan. I recommend seeing the movie. It’s different than the Stage version. I think it does a much better job of conveying the Christian themes. There are crosses everywhere, and it’s much easier to understand the lyrics.

It’s much darker than the stage version. I didn’t like the Lovely Ladies or Master of the House scenes.

However, I loved Empty Chairs better than the stage version. On My Own was also fantastic!

I would never buy a CD of the movie. Musically, I like the stage better. However, the movie was good in a visual way. It’s a very emotional movie.


25 posted on 12/30/2012 9:41:14 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: paint_your_wagon

You’re correct. Hugo was a committed socialist. He also however, valued capitalism and Christianity. He was a complex person. His great uncle was a doctor of the church which no doubt influenced him.


26 posted on 12/30/2012 9:43:09 AM PST by Mercat (Adventures make you late for dinner. Bilbo Baggins)
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To: GeronL

I haven’t seen a movie in 29 years !!!!....
Get off my lawn!...lol


27 posted on 12/30/2012 9:44:45 AM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Mountain Mary

Actually, Colm Wilkinson did play in the movie! It’s not a large role, but he’s in a couple 2 or 3 scenes. He played the kindly bishop who gives Valjean the candlesticks! He played in scenes toward the beginning, and at the end when he’s joining him in heaven, smiling and beckoning him to heaven!

He (Wilkinson) has a wonderful voice still, even at his age (I think he’s in his late 60s-early 70s) and did a beautiful job! Also one of, if not the original actress, to play Eponine is in it too, as one of the prostitutes! (Francis Ruffelle (sp?)) Really, I understand your feeling on some of the players, but if you can set aside your feeling about some of the actors and just focus on their art, you can still enjoy it!

I know Anne Hathaway is a liberal twerp, but she did an outstanding job in her portrayal of Fantine, and sang beautifully! So did Hugh Jackman, his portrayal was powerful, and his voice was beautiful! (for a guy, that is!) He, Russell Crowe, and many other actors in the film-young and old-did a great job in the characters they played.

She’s (Hathaway)like Barbra Streisand in some ways; she (Streisand) is also an obnoxious liberal, but she can sing, beautifully, and her acting is decent. I can tolerate the known leftists, and still enjoy their performances. (it’s not easy, though)I can only suppose that not all of them are like that! I can enjoy movies and t.v. with actors w/both right and left politics if the story is a good one!


28 posted on 12/30/2012 9:45:44 AM PST by dsutah
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To: Cordio

I read the unabridged version two or three times in my 30s and 40s and recently listened to the unabridged audio version. I find that listening to a favorite book enhances the experience. In this case, I enjoyed some of it more but since I couldn’t skip over the boring parts, I ended up glad I was done and I doubt I’ll ever read it again. Hugo’s essays on 18th and 19th century French politics was extremely tedious.


29 posted on 12/30/2012 9:46:54 AM PST by Mercat (Adventures make you late for dinner. Bilbo Baggins)
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To: Anima Mundi

You’re right, I seem to remember that there was one that was set in the ww2 era! I couldn’t remember it for some reason until you mentioned it!


30 posted on 12/30/2012 9:58:26 AM PST by dsutah
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To: luckystarmom

Yeah, you’re right about those two scenes (songs)! While very funny in a r-rated way, they did get a bit garish and over the top! The blood and gore in the battle scenes was stomach-turning as well as the scenes in the underground sewer (ugh!). Still, the cinematography and the singing performances were beautiful and breathtaking!


31 posted on 12/30/2012 10:05:11 AM PST by dsutah
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To: luckystarmom

Yeah, you’re right about those two scenes (songs)! While very funny in a r-rated way, they did get a bit garish and over the top! The blood and gore in the battle scenes was stomach-turning as well as the scenes in the underground sewer (ugh!). Still, the cinematography and the singing performances were beautiful and breathtaking and sort-of made up for those other scenes!


32 posted on 12/30/2012 10:06:23 AM PST by dsutah
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST; zot; Alamo-Girl

4 times miserable ;-) —> book, movie, musical play; musical movie.

The movie had Edmund Gwinn as the bishop and Burt Lancaster as Valjean. I saw it a month ago on TCM, definitely worth watching. And Robert Newton as the police inspector/persecutor. and Hugh Jackman has performed on stage in musicals before he became knows as X-man “Wolverine.”


33 posted on 12/30/2012 11:27:10 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Fiji Hill; zot; Interesting Times; Alamo-Girl

Thank you for this information in your post #8.


34 posted on 12/30/2012 11:32:39 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: paint_your_wagon
I read the book years ago, and the one of the things that stuck in my mind was Victor Hugo’s repeated insistance that the problems of the poor would be wiped out once universal education was established. He mentioned several times that all of the ills that befell Jean Valjean were a direct result of his lack of the ability to read. Victor Hugo, as the narrator, used his story to push a “social justice” agenda.

Whittaker Chambers noted the flaws of Les Misérables--"its melodrama, its windy philosophizing, its clots of useless knowledge, its overblown rhetoric and repellent posturings"--but despite these shortcomings, he considered it "a great act of the human spirit."

35 posted on 12/30/2012 11:47:50 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Fight on!)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
True and that comes out clearly at the end of the film, but the movie and the play combined that Christian message with a socialist or communist one (those red flags flying at the end).

I'm not sure that the French revolutionaries of 1832 were actually socialists (they weren't Marxists, since Karl Marx was all of 14 in that year). Victor Hugo did refer to himself as a socialist, but it's hard to say just what he meant by that. It was a very vague idea for him and for many others at the time. Hugo was appalled by the idea of class warfare, but was the kind of 19th century gentleman who thought that "something must be done" for the poor.

Boublil and Schonberg who wrote the musical thought about playing up socialist themes more, but decided to bring Christianity to the fore, feeling that was more consistent with Hugo's original vision.Les Miserables was the favorite novel of Ayn Rand, who hated both socialism and Christianity, so I guess there's something in there for everybody.

36 posted on 12/30/2012 12:01:32 PM PST by x
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To: Mercat

Who was Hugo’s great uncle?


37 posted on 12/30/2012 12:01:36 PM PST by married21
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To: Mercat

the movie was very good, well done in all

the theater was packed and absolutely silent for the entire show, with great applause at the end

similar to one of the old time epics I remember going to see, like Ben Hur


38 posted on 12/30/2012 1:35:31 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: GreyFriar

I haven’t seen the movie with Edmund Gwinn as the bishop and Burt Lancaster as Valjean. Thanks for recommending it.


39 posted on 12/30/2012 5:58:08 PM PST by zot
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping!


40 posted on 12/30/2012 9:25:21 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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