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Ohio Teacher Says She Was Fired Over Pregnancy, Files Suit Against Catholic Archdiocese
The Republic ^ | 10/30/12 | AP

Posted on 12/31/2012 10:32:41 AM PST by marshmallow

DAYTON, Ohio — An unmarried Catholic school teacher who said she was fired after telling her principal that she was pregnant is suing the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Cincinnati.

It's the second lawsuit that's been filed in the last two years against archdiocese over the firing of a pregnant teacher.

Kathleen Quinlan, who taught first grade at Ascension Catholic School in Kettering in suburban Dayton, said she was told to resign or she would be fired, on the same day she told the school's principal in December 2011 that she was expecting. She said she had offered to take a behind-the-scenes job until she gave birth.

Quinlan, of Dayton, who later had twin girls, said in her lawsuit that she was given three days to clear out her classroom.

A termination letter said she was fired for violating a section of her employment contract that requires employees to "comply with and act consistently in accordance with the stated philosophy and teachings of the Roman Catholic Church," according to the lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court .

Her attorney said that, "as a non-ministerial employee, (she) was not subject to a 'morality clause.'"

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To: marshmallow

In this area Catholic school teachers are represented by a union. Will be interesting to see if that is the case here. Would be ironic if the Church’s embrace of organized labor and “social justice” came back to bite them in the arse.

In any event it will provide rich fodder for critics and the media to beat-up on the Church for being hypocritical on its Pro-Life stance.


21 posted on 12/31/2012 11:07:49 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Hieronymus

Life is full of people whose parents got married after the fact. Neither the child nor the parent should be punished for this. Nothing reverses time, and all one can do is correct the error. I read that a huge percentage - in fact, the majority - of girls in 17th century New England were pregnant when they got married, so the shotgun wedding was with us even before the shotgun itself.

Once upon a time, even children were punished for being illegitimate: there were certain professions they couldn’t go into, or at least not without a lot of paperwork and special treatment. This was clearly wrong and excessive, and it did nothing about e central fact. But there’s nothing that can change that, so the best thing is for the parents to repent, get married if possible, or otherwise try to work out their situation as best they can (if one of them is already married, for example). Fear of having their lives ruined and their children rejected was what used to determine women to have abortions once upon a time, and we don’t need to go back to that.

However, the young children this woman teaches don’t need to know that or worry about it. I agree that she should have been out of the classroom that day before the kids started to notice or ask questions, but there should have been more kindness shown her in offering to help her resolve her situation.

It mentions that she already has twins. Whose are they, I wonder. She may be somebody whose life is a mess, and perhaps kind treatment would give her a chance to get it together, since there are now four lives involved.


22 posted on 12/31/2012 11:10:36 AM PST by livius
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To: stuartcr
"Does this mean that a married teacher that uses birth control can be fired also?"

Yes, every married teacher is required to take along a Bishop for every Pap test and visit to their gynecologist. Next, all scripts before filling are subjected to a panel of Pastors before meds are received. Finally, if the married teacher decides to engage in coitus, a 24 hour notice is given so that a Priest could carefully inspect and watch the act to make certain no artificial device and/or condom is used.

Any other paradoxically questions that shows absurdity on your part?

BTW, if a Catholic teacher proudly exclaims her choice of birth control in from of her class, I would assume she would be out of a job the next day.

Also, the Primary does not like the way the secondary is handling things, if He did we would not need to face quietus.
23 posted on 12/31/2012 11:12:07 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Mercat
At one point, at least in some places, even a married woman who wasn't pregnant wouldn't be allowed to be a teacher.

I had a great-aunt who taught school after her husband died (not sure exactly when but maybe the 1920s or 1930s--she was born in 1881), but being a widow was different. Maybe the rule was there because of the belief that a married woman ought to be home keeping house.

24 posted on 12/31/2012 11:18:04 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: livius

I agree that it is quite common—I know of many cases both among my family and my ancestors. At the same time, it is worth asking in a given situation whether marriage will correct or compound the problem. Sometimes the answer is clear one way, sometimes it is clear the other, and sometimes it is unclear. Allowing a person to retain the job if they marry discourages the asking of this important question, and may encourage them to act against what is best.

In fact, all other things being equal, children are at a disadvantage when illegitimate, but a shotgun marriage is not always the answer. Adoption is sometimes a very good option.


25 posted on 12/31/2012 11:22:02 AM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: livius

The twins were born from the pregnancy that cost her her job. If she had applied for the job while single and had told them that she had a couple of kids at home, I doubt that she would have been hired.


26 posted on 12/31/2012 11:22:46 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: stuartcr
They most certainly could, if they broadcast the fact that they engage in immoral behavior.

Make no mistake, the use of birth control is a MORTAL sin in the eyes of the Roman Catholic Church. It is often an abortifacient preventing a fertilized egg from implanting.

The Church is very open and willing to discuss all these matters. They have both moral and scientific facts on their side. Unlike the greater society they are unable to be swayed by moral relativism.

27 posted on 12/31/2012 11:23:43 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Mercat

When In was in elementary school my first grade teacher got MARRIED and had to retire. And i went to a PUBLIC school

Times have changed a lot


28 posted on 12/31/2012 11:26:18 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Where are you that Catholic School Teachers have a union?
29 posted on 12/31/2012 11:26:57 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Mercat

” When I was in HS in the 60s, even a married woman couldn’t teach if she was pregnant.”

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I once worked in a law office with an older woman. Her husband couldn’t work because of a chronic illness; so she had to be the sole breadwinner for herself, husband and their two small children. But at that time, even a married woman without children, had difficulty finding a full time job. During interviews, it was customary to ask whether the applicant intended to start a family or add to her family anytime soon. The reasoning was that the employer was investing a lot of money into the employee. The employer did not want to waste time and money on a new employee if she was going to get pregnant and possibly quit the workforce.


30 posted on 12/31/2012 11:32:17 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: livius
Reread the story. The Diocese is already in a legal dispute with another woman who was fired when she was pregnant with twins. That woman has had twin daughters and is pursuing a lawsuit over her termination. This woman was only recently released from service and is presumably still pregnant.

This case goes to the heart of the First Amendment to the Constitution.

Can a Church or any employer with a deep moral compass be compelled to act against their own moral teachings and feelings in order to be involved in ANY type of Secular activity? If they can be compelled in such a manner, is there a First Amendment at all?

31 posted on 12/31/2012 11:35:19 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: livius

I don’t think it’s true that a majority of brides were pregnant in 17th c. New England. The Puritans kept good records, and in researching my grandfather’s line (almost all Great Migration, 1630s through 1650s) I didn’t find any early first births, and only one obvious case of illegitimacy - four babies born to the Widow Trask.


32 posted on 12/31/2012 11:37:07 AM PST by heartwood
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To: Cicero

I agree. If they want the sinless to be teachers, there will be a scarcity of application.

Perhaps her first conversation should have been with the archbishop in the confessional. She should have waited and talked to the principal after the penance was completed.


33 posted on 12/31/2012 11:38:29 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: stuartcr
Does this mean that a married teacher that uses birth control can be fired also?

Is she openly talking about it?

34 posted on 12/31/2012 11:38:51 AM PST by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: Tupelo

I was in a Catholic HS in Kansas


35 posted on 12/31/2012 11:38:58 AM PST by Mercat (Adventures make you late for dinner. Bilbo Baggins)
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To: marshmallow

If the slut was too ignorant to read her contract why was she teaching anyways?


36 posted on 12/31/2012 11:39:03 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: marshmallow

Kim Kardashian just announced the wonderful news that she’s reproducing with Kanye West. Does this mean she can’t get the job?


37 posted on 12/31/2012 11:44:38 AM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
Where are you that Catholic School Teachers have a union?

Pittsburgh. http://www.fpdt.net/


38 posted on 12/31/2012 11:47:41 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rollo tomasi
Yes, every married teacher is required to take along a Bishop for every Pap test and visit to their gynecologist. Next, all scripts before filling are subjected to a panel of Pastors before meds are received. Finally, if the married teacher decides to engage in coitus, a 24 hour notice is given so that a Priest could carefully inspect and watch the act to make certain no artificial device and/or condom is used.

And all of that was the work of Mitt Romney...


39 posted on 12/31/2012 11:50:45 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cicero
I generally agree with you....but this time, in my humble opinion, your thinking is a bit convoluted.

In fact, it's a hair's breath from a liberal's response who wants to play devil's advocate with a conservative.
Two wrongs don't make a right.

(& I'm as pro-life as they come)

40 posted on 12/31/2012 11:52:36 AM PST by Guenevere (....)
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