The posts the I have made on this thread have, beyond any argument or doubt, proven that the rapture will happen before the Tribulation.
As you, and I and anyone who has read this thread knows, you have not posted one verse of Scripture to validate your beliefs because you can't. You cling to a demonic doctrine, and you discard plain, clear Scriptures that destroy your beliefs because you love a lie and fable over the Holy Spirit and the Word of God.
You really have nothing more to say. You can spew your opinions and denials and lamely continue to try to divert attention away from your spiritual blindness and rejection of Jesus Christ, but you are exposed, and you are finished.
How does it feel to have absolutely nothing that Jesus Christ said that you can provide to support what you believe? How does that feel? How does it feel to be proven over and over to be someone who simply refuses to accept the Scriptures as God wrote them because the Scriptures as God wrote them blow your false doctrine into a million pieces?
The fact remains that you have given no Scripture that even hints that the rapture will occur after the Tribulation and therefore your "religion" is man-made, is in direct contradiction to the Word of God, demonic, and something you love enough to reject Jesus Christ for.
You are exposed, and you are finished.
All you are is a debater, GN, you care not a whit for the real truth about this issue. As a debater you must never admit to any possibility that you could be wrong, you must defend your position at all costs. Such tactics won’t work on such a thread as this, FReepers are not dumb.
Most really want to know what is ahead of them, are they going to have to face the antichrist or not? No small issue. It affects virtually every part of their lives, and their children and loved ones. They care not a whit about your kind of bluster, blather, and intimidation – standard fare for debaters – I’m sure they must see right through that kind of stuff, they really want to know the truth about this.
Now, your objections to the contrary, I have answered your points. No, not in the way you want me to. I guess you expect me to get in there and wrangle with you every point you make in your long posts. I could, but I see no need to do that, I just put ‘em in one bundle and dispense with the lot of them.
As one writer put it, “In disputed questions of interpretation, the simpler view is to be preferred; the burden of proof rest upon the more elaborate explanation. Pretribulationism is the more elaborate view in that without explicit scriptural statements it divides the second coming and the resurrection of the saints into two phases. There is no need that that all the details of the rapture have to be restated in every mention of the event.”
As a debater, you won’t accept this, of course, but these distinctions of yours between the two “phases of the 2nd coming” (your words), all they are are simply descriptions of the same event. Every detail doesn’t have to be restated every time the rapture is mentioned.
You want a scripture from me, I close with this one, Titus 2:13
“Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ.”
It is the end of the tribulation when he comes “in power and great glory,” Matt. 24:30. An open public display of his power and glory. This alleged secret coming and rapture of yours can hardly be what is described in Titus 2:13. The post-trib glorious appearing is my hope…and yours, our only hope.