Posted on 01/15/2013 8:22:47 AM PST by marshmallow
The Vatican has taken multiple blasts at same-sex marriage in the last month, just as it is on the way to becoming legal in Britain and France, and as a poll by an evangelical-backed organization finds opposition in the United States on the wane.
A front-page article in L’Osservatore Romano, the Vatican newspaper, likens marriage equality to 20th-century communism, reports the Religion News Service, saying it is equal to “the egalitarian utopia that did so much damage during the 20th Century . . . deceiving humanity as socialism did in the past.”
The Vatican blast follows a Christmas season message of peace from Pope Benedict XVI, in which the pontiff spoke of protecting traditional marriage from “attempts to make it juridically equivalent to radically different types of unions.”
The pope spoke of “a crisis that threatens (the family in Western society) to its foundations,” condemning “a new philosophy of sexuality” which teaches that “sex is no longer a given element of nature” but a “social role to choose for ourselves.”
But marriage-equality bills are moving through the parliament in London, the assembly in Paris, and been upheld by the courts in Spain. And voters in Washington, Maryland and Maine approved same-sex marriage last November, while Minnesota voters rejected a bid — backed by the Catholic Church — to write a ban on marriage equality into the state constitution.
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7 You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: 8 “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; 9 in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”
Matthew 22:29 But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.
Mark 12:24 Jesus said to them, “Is this not the reason you are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God?
Mark 7:1-13 Now when the Pharisees gathered to him, with some of the scribes who had come from Jerusalem, 2 they saw that some of his disciples ate with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed. 3 (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands properly, holding to the tradition of the elders, 4 and when they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other traditions that they observe, such as the washing of cups and pots and copper vessels and dining couches.)
5 And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, “Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?” 6 And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; 7 in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ 8 You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men.”
9 And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition! 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’ 11 But you say, ‘If a man tells his father or his mother, “Whatever you would have gained from me is Corban”’ (that is, given to God)— 12 then you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or mother, 13 thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And many such things you do.”
2 Corinthians 4:2 But we have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways. We refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God's word, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to everyone's conscience in the sight of God.
The Latin Church -- which you call Roman -- is only one of them.
For your enlightenment -- many of these churches were founded in the Middle East.
You, RM, are reading my mind !!!!!! You are making a statement implying that The statement that Jesus created the I never caller the FReeper a liar.
I directed the statement to a person and
made it a personal attack.
Roman Catholic Church
is on its face a lie
and you should know that.
Did it ever occur to these so called vicars of Christ that Jesus was Jewish?
Their contempt for the Jews is palpable.
I have no contempt for the Jews. Please do not try to put words in my mouth.
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The Pope condemns communism and the acceptance of homosexuality ....
And in response, folks on a supposedly conservative forum condemn the Pope and the Church!
It is a marvel to behold ...
You’re a pope? Who knew?
??
That is not what I said. Please do not put words in my mouth.
Interesting.
Do the papal critics on this forum disagree? Do they wish to see institutionalized sodomy, misnamed "homosexual marriage", enshrined in law? Are they, in fact, closeted supporters of sexual perversion?
It is a puzzle ...
Maybe you should start with some relevant postings. What you posted in no way affirms any contention that Constantine established the Catholic Church. The first citation lead to the Edict of Milan in 313 AD that lead to the legalization of Christianity as well as every other religion in the Roman Empire. Your second citation mentions the Pope Sylvester, the 33rd Pope. Your last uncited paragraphs are just the the sort of anti-Catholic nonsense I expected.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
So ... do the Pope's detractors support the evils of socialism, egalitarianism, and utopianism?
Seriously: Attempts to implement those three ideologies led to the deliberate, state-sponsored murder of more than 100 million people in the bloody XX Century. The Pope condemns murderous utopian ideology ...
Do the Pope's detractors wish to see more state-sponsored murder, and state-sponsored perversion as well?
Elsewhere, we find folks who used the Pope's condemnation of homosexuality as an occasion to condemn the Pope.
God night
Words such as "false" "error" and "wrong" do not attribute motive and are therefore not inflammatory.
I wasn’t talking about you or to you.
What words was I supposed to have put in your mouth?
I wasn’t talking to or about salvation.
I don’t understand what she was referring to in post 45. I never said anything about her attitude towards Jews.
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