Posted on 01/21/2013 7:45:16 PM PST by narses
I do believe it an obvious fact that sola scriptura is neither scriptural nor practical - it fails its own test and fails in practice by producing multiple contradicting doctrines.
In the end it becomes scripture according to each individual, the Christian faith according to each individual. We should agree that this is not what Christ intended.
The only Gospel Paul preached was the death and resurection of Jesus.
The letters Paul wrote to the Churches were in regards to how best maintain the Church in order to preach the gospel of Jesus.
Jesus said ( you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free )
What he told us is the Gospel.
Paul had a disagreement with Peter and Paul announced it to the world, Paul was a believer but he could have been mistaken, so yes, there is some scripture that i believe contradicts others, but i think it is much better to admit it rather than try to twist it around to where it fits some ones ideal as some do.
Some people try to see a strife between Paul and James about if we are saved by Grace or works, there are no disagreement between them because Paul is saying that we are not saved by the works of the law.
James is not talking about the works of the law but works of faith, i believe they are both right because they both came from what Jesus himself said.
Since i believe this thread is not about the Gospel but only about authority i will just say that if Paul had an axe to grind with Peter then some one was infalible.
If some one in the Church was infalible back then there is many more the same way to day, so i would say that if some one puts all of their faith in the doctrine of the Church that is fine but i only put my faith in the Gospel of Jesus.
And i can not see how any two people could have much of a disagreement on that with out qouting something that is not even Gospel.
My mistake.
Since i believe this thread is not about the Gospel but only about authority i will just say that if Paul had an axe to grind with Peter then some one was infalible.
I should have said falible not infalible, those are not familiar words for me, so instead of using them i should have said some one was mistaken or wrong.
II Timothy 2:15 is your friend. And the answer to your conundrum.
II Timothy 2:15 is your friend. And the answer to your conundrum.
My main point here is that important doctrine is derived from the same scripture differently by different denominations - as in the non-trinitarian, salvation by elections, etc. examples I gave earlier.
The only Gospel Paul preached was the death and resurection of Jesus.
There are a great many who would disagree with you - giving scripture as their proof vs. your view.
So, I'm not arguing here one interpretation or another only illustrating how sola scriptura fails in practice to result in "one Lord, one faith, one baptism." It does so because it becomes a matter individual authority.
We do agree that it is not What Christ intended.
Ergo, sola scriptura is not what He intended, not the Church He established.
When Peter and Paul disagreed they met in council with other apostles and resolved their differences - with authority for the Church.
Thank you very much for your reply and courteous discussion.
There are a great many who would disagree with you - giving scripture as their proof vs. your view.
As for Pauls Accusation against Peter, i have not saw where it was settled, maybe it is because i put more stock in the Gospel of jesus and miss some of the other.
In other words i truly need that Gospel, those simple little things that Jesus said for me to do, they are so simple but so many people do not do them, myself included.
I truly need that Gospel, those simple little things that Jesus said for me to do, they are so simple but so many people do not do them, myself included.
Amen. And may God bless you and yours.
Thank you very much.
Maybe we can end also with a point of complete agreement.
God bless.
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