Posted on 02/01/2013 1:34:17 PM PST by NYer
MEDIA STATEMENT
Boy Scouts of America
Monday, Jan. 28, 2013
Attributable to: Deron Smith, Director of Public Relations“For more than 100 years, Scouting’s focus has been on working together to deliver the nation’s foremost youth program of character development and values-based leadership training. Scouting has always been in an ongoing dialogue with the Scouting family to determine what is in the best interest of the organization and the young people we serve.
“Currently, the BSA is discussing potentially removing the national membership restriction regarding sexual orientation. This would mean there would no longer be any national policy regarding sexual orientation, and the chartered organizations that oversee and deliver Scouting would accept membership and select leaders consistent with each organization’s mission, principles, or religious beliefs. BSA members and parents would be able to choose a local unit that best meets the needs of their families.
“The policy change under discussion would allow the religious, civic, or educational organizations that oversee and deliver Scouting to determine how to address this issue. The Boy Scouts would not, under any circumstances, dictate a position to units, members, or parents. Under this proposed policy, the BSA would not require any chartered organization to act in ways inconsistent with that organization’s mission, principles, or religious beliefs.”
Comment: The above statement is entirely disingenuous. The site says you can leave comments here. They are no longer taking telephone calls, though some members of the board might still.
One reader of HSH had this exchange:
As soon as I said our troop was from St. *******, she said, “Oh the CATHOLIC church” (heavy sarcasm in the voice) – she had more to say about it than I did…. ”Well how will you know if they are homosexual anyways?” “Do you prefer them to be closeted or out?” “I think its better if they are out in the open.” “Well whatever, I’ll pass on the message” all whilst chewing her lunch loudly in my ear.
This present post is a follow up on two other posts from today on HSH: HERE and HERE.
One reader insisted on just having a don’t ask, don’t tell policy for Scout LEADERS. However, I think more has to be said against homosexualists taking a position of leadership. The BSA could learn something from the Catholic Church’s prohibition of admitting those identifying with a homosexual lifestyle into the seminary (There’s more to it than that, but you get the idea). There are militant homosexualists who are pushing for this change, and it will not be about anything to do with a don’t ask, don’t tell scenario. Instead, it will be extremely clear that militant homosexualism is the only way to go for homosexualist leaders.
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Read this comment from a HSH reader:
I’m seriously considering sending the BSA an email informing them that if this measure passes they can expect to receive via UPS all of my official Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts uniforms, merit badges, awards, etc. as I would not wish to be associated with an organization that, as a matter of published policy, knowingly supports—and/or directly endangers young boys by allowing their congress with—men who openly practice and promote a sodomite lifestyle.
Heretofore, the BSA was a model for secular organizations. I remember several troops that I had belonged to sponsored each by Catholic, Protestant, or Jewish institutions, but all of them promoting the same moral character, patriotism, civic responsibility, and above all conservationist and survivalist outdoorsmanship.
The homosexualist agenda is antithetical to all of those propositions: an amoral, unhealthy, and unhygienic lifestyle opposed to moral character; cultural and national degradation or destruction instead of patriotism; incivility and oppression for those who disagree with them rather than civil responsibility; and an utter contempt for Nature and her varied but ordered beauty in place of a Godly conservation, stewardship, and enjoyment of the same.
And another:
I’m a Life Scout. The last thing I want to see is the admittance of homosexual men to positions of power over minor boys. Maybe, instead of calling it the BS of A, I’ll just call it BS.
And, the most incisive of all, which bears repeating, as it answers many objections to objections:
As many of you have probably heard, and has been reported in numerous newspapers, the Executive Committee of the Boy Scouts of America has suddenly and without notice, announced that it is considering eliminating the prohibition against leaders and Scouts who engage in an active homosexual lifestyle. It should be noted that the policy has never prohibited people with a homosexual orientation on that basis alone, and thus is not an exclusion on any individual based upon an involuntary characteristic. Rather it is a prohibition upon leaders who engage in unnatural behavior that is contrary to the Scouting value of cleanliness of life and scandalous to other Scouts. However, almost certainly due to pressure from some corporate sponsors such as UPS and Merck, as well as some chapters of United Way, and politicians who are still threatening the Scouts, the Executive Council is going to vote next Tuesday on eliminating the policy. It is true that the proposed altered policy would allow individual troops to continue excluding people who engage in such behavior, based upon the sponsoring organization’s religious beliefs. However, if the proposed change goes through, it would be a concession that family values are no longer central to the principles of the Boy Scouts of America, even though they may be for sponsoring churches. Furthermore, many Scouting events, e.g., summer camp and camporees, involve numerous different troops together; and there is no way to separate them out. In addition, if BSA caves on this issue, it would likely not be long before other central values, such as reverence and belief in God, are soon to follow. Catholic parishes and other religious entities (e.g. Knights of Columbus) who sponsor troops can perfectly well arrange activities on their own. The main reason to accept the governance and oversight of BSA is because the organization stands for a united prophetic voice of values that are often challenged in the modern world. If that prophetic voice is no longer there, the main reason for having troops under BSA is gone.
It is important that they know the opposition to such a change and the fact that it would likely lead many Catholics and others of good faith to arrange their own youth scouting programs and/or find other organizations to affiliate with instead of BSA. In reaction to similar policy changes at Girl Scouts of America, eliminating both that policy and the requirement of reverence and belief in God, the American Heritage Girls were founded to uphold family values and reverence for girls. I have little doubt that, if this policy alteration is implemented, a similar parallel organization, still connected to the international scouting movement and committed to family values, would be formed here. In fact, there is the International Committee on Catholic Scouting which until now, has been working entirely with Boy Scouts of America for Catholic Scouting in this nation. But there is no reason why a specific Catholic or Judeo-Christian Scouting group could not be formed here as an alternative if Boy Scouts of America does in fact cave to corporate and political pressure. In fact, the Southern Baptists are already promoting groups called Royal Ambassadors and Challengers, as a possible alternative, if BSA changes its policy. Because Boy Scout troops belong to the sponsoring organization, not to BSA, the sponsoring organization can at will transfer the assets of the troop to a group organized under different auspices.
There is no clear indication about whether the Executive committee will endorse this alteration of policy. The way in which it was introduced, i.e., by a sudden announcement earlier this week about the vote to be taken next Tuesday, indicates that the proponents of this change are trying to ramrod it through without public discussion or reaction from the people who actually sponsor the Scouting programs. And, in fact, it is neither the Catholic Church nor any other church or denomination, which together sponsor 70 percent of the troops was consulted about this proposed alteration of policy. It is important that they hear from us now. You can contact the Boy Scouts of America at myscouting@scouting.org , the National Help Desk at , or the BSA National Council operator at . I hope that this proposal is simply an ill-considered idea of a few BSA higher-ups who are feeling outside pressure and that it will be rejected as a temptation to the path of ease, comfort and thus destruction that it is.
Ping!
In fact, I have to assume that this proposal is coming from militant, predatory homosexuals ... and that their primary interest is in raping boys.
BSA should continue to exclude homosexuals from leadership and from membership.
Follow the money. The BSA statement mentions none of the pressure they are receiving from their corporate fat cat sponsors.
I say to the sponsors: This organization is much more important than the bucks you give it. Take your sodomite-tainted cash and shove it.
Here is my letter to the Chief Scout Executive:
Wayne Brock
Chief Scout Executive
C/o National Office
Boy Scouts of America
1325 Walnut Hill Lane
P.O. Box 152079
Irving, Texas 75015-2079
Dear Mr. Brock:
It was with great shock and sadness that I heard the executive board of the BSA was considering removing the ban on open homosexuals from being members and leaders in scouting. I am sure that you have heard from many of your fellow scouters about this abrupt and unfortunate event. I am also sure that a vast majority are against this move.
I am an Eagle Scout and the father of five young boys. I am totally dismayed by this insanity on the part of the board. I assure you that the inclusion of this small minority of sexually confused members of our society will be neither a moral or financial success for our organization. I foresee a large loss of members, leaders, troops, sponsors, entire councils and quite possibly the collapse of the scouting program with such an ill-advised move.
I understand that two board members are pushing hard for this change, specifically Mr. James Turley, the CEO of Ernst & Young and Mr. Randall Stephenson, the CEO of AT&T. If this is the case, I would advise that they should respectfully be asked to resign. If they refuse, they should be removed. The desire for their continued economic support is nothing compared to the economic loss that will occur from their continued morally confused and bad advice.
Sincerely,
James A. Roth
restriction regarding sexual orientation
sexual orientation is a modern day PC construct.
You are either male or female.
Allowing perverts to be in charge of children is the path to destruction of our society.
“restriction regarding sexual orientation”
sexual orientation is a modern day PC construct.
You are either male or female.
Allowing perverts to be in charge of children is the path to destruction of our society.
Ping!
They will have to change their name to “Souting Boys of America” with “scouting” being a verb.
BSA is also going to have to begin BANNING homosexuals, pedophiles and their enablers from the National Council Board.
The Boy Scouts seem to worry more about losing money than losing the Boys.
What good are the scouts with sponsors if parents refuse to allow their boys out with queers.
All it will take is one lawsuit, stating that a person was denied to any group because of their sexual orientation, and this s a piece of junk. Remember the Christian groups who denied a homosexual to run for the club’s leadership position and the courts ruled that they either accept the homosexual person or disband. The school upheld the court’s ruling instead of fighting it...and this was a Christian college! No, this will not be a pretty scene, and it will take less than a few months to end up in court.
It’ll only take a brief time before the BSA leadership is infiltrated by pervert homosexuals (but I repeat myself), just as the Girl Scout national leadership is dominated by militant feminist lesbians.
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Well worth reading the whole thing. I'm still in shock. I never thought this would happen.
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Well worth reading the whole thing. I'm still in shock. I never thought this would happen.
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Well worth reading the whole thing. I'm still in shock. I never thought this would happen.
>> Maybe, instead of calling it the BS of A, I’ll just call it BS.
It can keep “BSA” providing the letter A is reassigned from America to the new anatomical initiative.
I hadn’t really kept up with Jim Turley. In college, he was a popular guy who, I want to say, dropped out his senior year and got married to a divorcee with kids. Most of us who knew him were surprised, but I saw him later and he probably had a more realistic view on life, than most others around him.
It doesn’t seem to be characteristic of him to be so supportive of the homosexual movement, unless there is a hidden agenda about it. However, running a search on his recent moves, he appears to be more of a “diversity” wave rider than homosexual.
Surprised to see him leading Ernst and Young.
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