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Mark Movsesian is Director of the Center for Law and Religion at St. John’s University.
1 posted on 02/06/2013 4:11:45 AM PST by NYer
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Remains of Richard III
2 posted on 02/06/2013 4:13:06 AM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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Additional insight into this event.

King Richard III should be given a Catholic Requiem Mass in the Sarum Use, not a Church of England State funeral

3 posted on 02/06/2013 4:15:15 AM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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Well it would be a nice gesture, esp so at the critical time for western civilization, for the Anglicans to make some inquiries to Rome.


4 posted on 02/06/2013 4:21:16 AM PST by exPBRrat
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And here is the CNN news article on the discovery of King Richard's remains.

Body found under parking lot is King Richard III, scientists prove


The base of the skull shows the larger of two potentially fatal injuries. This shows clearly how a section of the skull had been sliced off.


he complete skeleton showing the curve of the spine. Supporters of the infamous king, including members of the Richard III Society, hoped the discovery would force academics to rewrite history, which they say has been tainted by exaggerations and false claims.

Many additional photos at above source.

5 posted on 02/06/2013 4:21:16 AM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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From what I’ve been reading, the plan is to give him a Catholic mass at his reinternment.

But this article is kinda dumb. Richard was NOT a hunchback (he had scoliosis) and there is no evidence that he murdered his nephews. He actually was a brilliant administrator in the North as the Duke of Gloucester and a forward-thinking King. And pretty damned good-looking, too!


6 posted on 02/06/2013 4:26:10 AM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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no Massachusetts!

What could have not been...

7 posted on 02/06/2013 4:30:41 AM PST by RPTMS
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Dick doesn’t care. He’s dead.

Matthew 8:22
But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.


10 posted on 02/06/2013 4:44:21 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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He's already had a Catholic burial, I believe. His body was given over to the Leicester "Greyfriars" (Conventual Franciscans). IIRC, Henry VII paid for his funeral Mass(es)!

But it's obviously an anachronism to pretend he was an Anglican. Maybe it will cause at least a few people in the UK to take an objective look at the government-imposed religious revolution that swept their country in the 16th Century, as well as an objective look at the traditional Christianity of England that it swept away ... a Christianity that looked a lot more like that of the local TLM parish than it did that of the CofE.

12 posted on 02/06/2013 5:02:31 AM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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Henry's split from Rome was not a reformation per se, and the Reformation on the Continent had nothing to do with the Church of England.

If Richard is to get a religious funeral, it would be fitting that he receive a Catholic one.

14 posted on 02/06/2013 5:06:04 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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He was a Catholic! Of course he should receive a Catholic burial! Anything else would be blasphemy!


45 posted on 02/06/2013 6:29:02 AM PST by Dudoight
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“Had Richard prevailed at the Battle of Bosworth Field, there would have been no Henry VII, therefore no Henry VIII and no Reformation. England today might still be a Catholic country.” Think of it: no Reformation, no Established Church, no Archbishop Laud, no Puritans, no Great Migration — no Massachusetts! — and no Establishment Clause.

An interesting "What If" Alternate History scenario. However, I think there would have been Reformation in England sometime in the 17th Century. Somehow I don't see folks like Oliver Cromwell remaining good Catholics. Therefore there would have been Puritans but when they overthrew the King, there would have been NO Restoration as happened when Charles II was returned to the throne. Most likely England would have remained a Republic which makes for some other interesting scenarios such as would there have been an American Revolution against not the British Crown but a British Republic.

67 posted on 02/06/2013 9:41:12 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
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It depends.

He didn't "interpret the Bible literally," did he???

89 posted on 02/06/2013 1:27:58 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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