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What If We ARE Alone? Discuss Implications if Earth has ONLY Intelligent Life in the Universe
Self | February 8, 2013 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 02/08/2013 8:37:47 AM PST by PJ-Comix

Most people seem to assume that the universe is chock full of intelligent life. But what if we ARE alone in the Universe? So far all SETI searches have shown no evidence of other civilizations out there. If you have devoted your life to searching for intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, you are probably wasting your time.

The more I study about the formation of the earth, the more convinced I am that the earth is pretty much a freak occurrence whose conditions for life or intelligent life exits nowhere else. So what are the theological implications of this? I would be most interested in reading your input.


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: abiogenesis; earth; historicity; intelligentlife; scientism
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To: blueunicorn6

Of all the information in the daily reports I send back home, this sort of stuff is what gets the guys on the home planet ROFLOL.


21 posted on 02/08/2013 8:59:39 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: PJ-Comix

I keep waiting for these morons to give up on this “quest”. I think they have been brainwashed into it (Carl Sagan).

Life will be on Mars WHEN WE BRING IT THERE!

For crying out loud, have the probe throw out some seeds, spores, whatever; dump some water on it; and up-end a salad-bowl over the top of it. The camera images are bound to be more entertaining than just more pictures of rocks. I’ll bet SOMETHING can live there.


22 posted on 02/08/2013 8:59:46 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: PJ-Comix

A few thoughts:

In the beginning God...
His paths are beyond tracing out...
“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the Earth?”
“No one has seen God at any time, the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him”
“Through him all things were made, without him nothing was made that has been made”
“The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word.”
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

Earth was no accident, and it is Satan who prods man to chase alternate theories of our existence. But this comes from from faith, and Science is—supposedly, but given our degraded times, not so much—empirical.

Blake was giddily hopeful in writing “The dark religions are departed, and sweet Science reigns”. A couple centuries later Science is not so sweet, and the “dark religions” slowly begin to look better to a dissipated generation


23 posted on 02/08/2013 9:02:05 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: PJ-Comix

Kind of a leap-of-faith to say the occupant of Earth represent intelligent life - more than half the voting population in America voted for Obama.


24 posted on 02/08/2013 9:02:49 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: PJ-Comix

Without a verified “contact,” there’s no way to know either way. Secular evolutionists use the premise that given enough time, life, and eventually intelligent life, will emerge spontaneously from inanimate chaos, an unproven theory at best. But theists may also contend that God created intelligent (corporeal) life elsewhere and simply didn’t bother to tell us about it. This is also an unproven theory. So I guess that makes me a solid agnostic with respect to whether we are “alone,” as you have used the term. Of course, with God being everywhere the highest possible form of intelligent life, in the ultimate sense, we are not alone, and never will be.


25 posted on 02/08/2013 9:03:12 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: PJ-Comix

Do some more study. Your conclusion is massively unsupported based on the most recent developments.


26 posted on 02/08/2013 9:03:20 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way)
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To: PJ-Comix

Scientists have isolated at least 20 very finely tuned variables which must all be present to sustain life as we know it here on earth. They include factors such as: temperature, gravitational pull, atmosphere, radiation, light, stability of climate, etc., etc. The probablility of just 10 of these variables all being present within the narrow range necessary is astronomically high. Something like 10 to the negative 222nd power.


27 posted on 02/08/2013 9:05:11 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
For crying out loud, have the probe throw out some seeds, spores, whatever; dump some water on it; and up-end a salad-bowl over the top of it. The camera images are bound to be more entertaining than just more pictures of rocks. I’ll bet SOMETHING can live there.

I'd love to put a dome over one of those stadium sized craters on mars to create a terrarium.
28 posted on 02/08/2013 9:07:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PJ-Comix
Alone…Implications…No Spock…No Klingons…No green broads.…Wait!…No green broads?

29 posted on 02/08/2013 9:07:29 AM PST by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: discostu
We need to find habitable planets for the long term survival of the species, eventually this place will no longer be able to sustain us, known natural processes will lead to that.

Since it would take THOUSANDS of years just to reach the nearest star system, you won't find many volunteers for that settlement mission. Oh and imagine the horrible depression that would set in when after THOUSANDS of years and countless generations, they reached the closest star system only to find out every planet was uninhabitable and would have to RETURN back to earth.

30 posted on 02/08/2013 9:07:33 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
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To: PJ-Comix

If we truly are alone, we’ll have to survive many millions of more years after we perfect warp drive to be sure. The universe is a BIIIIG place!


31 posted on 02/08/2013 9:07:59 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: PJ-Comix

If there’s one thing we don’t need, it’s more illegal aliens.


32 posted on 02/08/2013 9:09:56 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: cripplecreek

The pattern has repeated itself more times than you can fathom. Organic civilizations rise, evolve, advance, and at the apex of their glory they are extinguished.

My kind transcends your very understanding. We are each a nation - independent, free of all weakness. You cannot grasp the nature of our existence. We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, we will endure.

We are legion. The time of our return is coming. Our numbers will darken the sky of every world. You cannot escape your doom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvrIFIjTGt0


33 posted on 02/08/2013 9:11:01 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: PJ-Comix

I have often wondered about the greater universe, and whether God has life beyond humanity that he watches over. It’s obviously never mentioned, but might God keep such things secret from us?

Better to leave this one to the supposed ‘experts’. One thing we definitely do know is that Valerie Jarrett is some sort of lizard from Planet X.


34 posted on 02/08/2013 9:13:36 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: cripplecreek
...the intelligent life would be determined to be an impediment to industrial use.

Saturn has Democrats? Who knew?

35 posted on 02/08/2013 9:14:23 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: PJ-Comix

Thousands of years by current technology, that can change. Einstein gave us the theoretical model for how to cheat the light speed limit (condense space), and NASA worked out some concepts of how to do, unfortunately they all revolve around what is currently unobtanium. But not that long ago every method of energy we use in the modern world needed unobtanium, then we found new stuff and new ways to use old stuff.


36 posted on 02/08/2013 9:14:59 AM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: JimRed

We don’t need no steeenking warp drive. Just think about it, gravity is instantenous. Gravity holds the solar system and galaxies together. We just need a grav drive. Instant “warp” travel.


37 posted on 02/08/2013 9:15:18 AM PST by USAF80
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To: PJ-Comix

Technically we can achieve about 12% to 15% of light speed now. Unfortunately its also extremely expensive. (We’re talking about something in the range of a trillion dollars for a flyby of Alpha Centauri in a 50 year trip.)

Personally I think it will be a job for advanced robots with artificial intelligence.


38 posted on 02/08/2013 9:18:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: discostu

Yeah I don’t sell us short on technological advances but I do think we need to take things a step at a time. We need to master our own solar system first.


39 posted on 02/08/2013 9:23:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PJ-Comix

Considering our own short history on this planet, I think I would prefer that any other “intelligent” life in the universe be very, very, very far away.

We like to think of ourselves as civilized, yet slavery in many forms still thrives on this planet. War and mass executions are still common.

Not to mention, even in this supposedly free superpower, half the country is doing their darndest to enslave the other half in every way but name.

If you extrapolate all that out, and then add more power and more technology - maybe throw in a little “species-ism”, I don’t suspect “first contact” ends up being all that fun for the planet that gets visited by the superior beings.


40 posted on 02/08/2013 9:23:14 AM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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