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To: ebb tide
The only breakthrough with SSPX, and I would welcome it, is to excommunicate the leaders again and slam the door on them once and for all. The SSPX was conceived in dramatic and virulent disobedience to the Holy See and to Blessed John Paul II. Lefebvre died excommunicated and earned that status.

The SSPX leaders somehow hallucinate that they have some business instructing popes as to what is acceptable Church doctrine. It does not work that way. The pope is in charge not Marvelous (Excommunicated) Marcel or His Majesty Fellay.

The SSPX also has the colossal gall to claim that SSPX has been responsible for the return of the Tridentine Mass when SSPX has been a stumbling block top its return causing many bishops to imagine that those who favor the Tridentine Mass are a pack of disobedient ecclesiastical revolutionaries. We have numerous orders of priests who are thoroughly in communion with their diocesan bishops and with the Holy See and who say the Tridentine Mass and some like the Institute of Christ the King say ONLY the Tridentine Mass. I attend the Tridentine Mass every week and Holy Day. It is available every day. Weddings, funerals, Tridentine confirmations, and all the bells and whistles. I was married in a Tridentine wedding Mass after Marcel was excommunicated and before SSPX was much of a presence in the room, if they ever have been.

The Institute of Christ the King, unlike SSPX illicitly consecrated bishop de Mallerais, also keep civil and reverent tongues in their heads when referencing John Paul II. Unlike Williamson, they do not deny the Holocaust, etc., etc., etc. Unlike Fellay, they do not presume to rule the pope.

They do not want to accept the decrees of Vatican II???? Neither do a lot of Catholics but we do. The so-called "Spirit of Vatican II" is quite another thing. If the SSPX wants its own Magisterium, it should found its own church and go the way of the Arian heretics, the Albigensians, the Donatists, the Nestorians and others and disappear justifiably from history.

Pepe Benedict XVI has made the prudential mistake of trying to reconcile them to the Church. The SSPX will settle for nothing short of total surrender by the Vatican. No thanks. Be gone!

Perhaps this long nightmare of pope abuse by the SSPX schismatics being rewarded by earnest but futile efforts to reconcile them is drawing to an end tomorrow night.

18 posted on 02/14/2013 6:16:10 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: BlackElk

“Pepe Benedict XVI has made the prudential mistake ...”

Who resigned and made you pope?


19 posted on 02/15/2013 1:02:52 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: BlackElk
"I attend the Tridentine Mass every week and Holy Day. It is available every day."

Good for you, chest thumper, but it's not as available to most of us.

21 posted on 02/15/2013 1:16:49 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: BlackElk
Unlike Williamson, they do not deny the Holocaust, etc., etc.,

Not familiar with this "Williamson" fellow. Is he an obscure SSPX historic figure?

27 posted on 02/15/2013 5:42:15 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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