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Benedictís renunciation and the wolves within the church
LifeSiteNews ^ | Feb 14, 2013 | Steve Jalsevac

Posted on 02/15/2013 8:35:56 AM PST by BlatherNaut

Since Pope Benedict’s shock announcement Monday, I have held off commenting. Time was needed to step back and consider just what this astounding action from the world's leading defender of life and family really meant. It was an earthquake announcement that had to have greater significance than the Pope merely being tired and worn out. The two lightening strikes onto the dome of St. Peter’s that evening added an uncanny emphasis that the Pope’s action demanded the world’s attention.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: benedict; bxvi; pope

1 posted on 02/15/2013 8:36:05 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

Excellent, yet foreboding article. Thanks for posting. Pray hard.


2 posted on 02/15/2013 8:49:52 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: BlatherNaut
Excellent article.

We must all pray for the Catholic Church in this time of change.

3 posted on 02/15/2013 8:52:45 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: BlatherNaut

I saw a recent video of him presiding over some service and it was obvious he was really feeble.

It seems like it is just what he said. He is just getting too old and infirm to carry on with his duties.


4 posted on 02/15/2013 8:55:14 AM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: BlatherNaut

It’s not the lightning strikes that is the message in the skies . It was the “dove of peace” released on the portico by Pope Benedict used as a Christian symbol to the resistance and portrayal of Islam being attacked midair and devoured by an eagle that was the message.


5 posted on 02/15/2013 9:02:52 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: yarddog

I think he is an eminently practical man as well as an unparalleled scholar and theologian. I believe he looked back at the final years of JP II with his declining health, and thought it better to step down before age and infirmity took their toll on him as well.


6 posted on 02/15/2013 9:03:38 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: BlatherNaut

It’s all political guess who they’re going to take his place. Here’s hint he’ll look like Obama without the big ears.


7 posted on 02/15/2013 9:13:27 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: BlatherNaut

Excellent article......i PRAY that the Pope is doing what God wants him to do.......I am VERY, VERY worried about the EVIL that has infested not only the Church, but OUR ONCE FINE COUNTRY ALSO!! And the evil is taking over OTHER countries, like Ireland, etc.


8 posted on 02/15/2013 9:15:30 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: BlatherNaut
Mahony is an aggressive personality, some say, a bully... I hope at the very least that he will be shunned by the other cardinals.

And Jesus had his very own "aggressive bully" named Judas.

9 posted on 02/15/2013 9:22:55 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mosesdapoet

I heard (and saw) it was a seagull, not an eagle, and the dove escaped.


10 posted on 02/15/2013 9:40:27 AM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mosesdapoet

The dove wasn’t “devoured.”


11 posted on 02/15/2013 9:53:28 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: COBOL2Java

I think you’re right.
A prolonged incapacity could be damaging to the Church. I think he’s being a good and prudent shepherd.


12 posted on 02/15/2013 9:55:08 AM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Ann Archy
I'm a life long Catholic but not a very good one...I went to Ash Wedenesday services and that is the first time I've been to mass in several years....

so my opinion is fwiw...

the Church is NOT the Pope nor the Vatican nor the priests nor the bishops nor Mahoney or any such ilk...

It it us....we are the church....as long as we maintain the faith, the Church survivies....

13 posted on 02/15/2013 9:55:16 AM PST by cherry
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To: BlatherNaut
The Pope gave us a very strong warning, when he said:
The very future of the world is at stake. --BXVI, 12-20-10 http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2010/december/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20101220_curia-auguri_en.html
Here's Michael Voris on the topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AohIc6qxkgQ

http://catholicscomehome.org
14 posted on 02/15/2013 10:06:10 AM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: All

“In her voyage across the ocean of this world, the Church is like a great ship being pounded by the waves of life’s different stresses.
Our duty is not to abandon ship but to keep her on her course”.

St. Boniface


“...And where sin abounded, grace did more abound.”

Romans 5:20


15 posted on 02/15/2013 10:09:23 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
From the article:

In his blog, Benedict XVI: Reason’s revolutionary, The Acton Institute’s Samuel Gregg explains some of the reasons for the animosity Benedict has experienced:

“Intellectually, Ratzinger far surpassed the usual suspects who want to turn Catholicism into something between the disaster otherwise known as the Church of England, and the rather sad leftist-activism of aging nuns stuck in 1968. But against the increasingly-absurd rants of a Hans Kung or Leonardo Boff, Ratzinger simply continued defending and explaining orthodox Christianity’s essential rationality with a modesty lacking in his opponents.”


And this:

...as we have noticed in recent years, reason is increasingly rejected, and changeable feelings and desires are given more emphasis in decision-making by persons and organizations. Anyone who dares to instruct them in what is best regarding their bodies, their sexuality, their theology or their ego, is increasingly seen as a hateful personal aggressor rather than a loving father or other teacher.

16 posted on 02/15/2013 10:15:31 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Gun control is hitting what you aim at. -- Chuck Norris)
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To: yarddog
I saw a recent video of him... and it was obvious he was really feeble.

It has occurred to me that he may have cancer and is in pain.

17 posted on 02/15/2013 10:20:09 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Gun control is hitting what you aim at. -- Chuck Norris)
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To: BlatherNaut

Thanks for posting this. Well worth the read.

This gave me a shiver:

There is a growing sense that something evil is on its way and the greatest bulwark against the evil can only be a strong, unified and faithful Catholic Church working together with all other authentic believers of the loving triune God.

&&&
I pray for wisdom, strength, and courage.


18 posted on 02/15/2013 10:32:15 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: cherry

Welcome home. Blessings to you.


19 posted on 02/15/2013 10:34:52 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: BlatherNaut

Wolves among the sheep.. What a concept....
Obviously the wolves cannot be clergy...
the wolves must be in the laity..

Where would you position yourself if you were a wolf?..


20 posted on 02/15/2013 11:40:30 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: mlizzy

Interesting links - thanks.


21 posted on 02/15/2013 12:15:54 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: COBOL2Java
I think he is an eminently practical man as well as an unparalleled scholar and theologian.

Agree. He's a rarity - a brilliant yet kind and humble man, blessed with German practicality as well as a formidable intellect. He sees his health issues as an insurmountable obstacle to effectively carrying out his duties, particularly in light of the worldwide moral disintegration and the sharp divisions within the Church.

22 posted on 02/15/2013 1:00:40 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: hosepipe

“But the sheep, now having contracted rabies from their contact with wolves, and more ferocious in their own savagery than the wild beasts themselves, have always wanted to mangle and do violence to their Shepherd...”

St. Peter Chrysologus


23 posted on 02/15/2013 1:06:35 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: mosesdapoet

It’s not the lightning strikes that is the message in the skies . It was the “dove of peace” released on the portico by Pope Benedict used as a Christian symbol to the resistance and portrayal of Islam being attacked midair and devoured by an eagle that was the message.

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Those eagles are sneaky. Dressing up in a seagull costume. At the Vatican of all places.


24 posted on 02/15/2013 1:38:23 PM PST by dmz
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
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February 14, 2013, (LifeSiteNews.com) – Since Pope Benedict’s shock announcement Monday, I have held off commenting. Time was needed to step back and consider just what  this astounding action from the world's leading defender of life and family really meant. It was an earthquake announcement that had to have greater significance than the Pope merely being tired and worn out.  The two lightening strikes onto the dome of St. Peter’s that evening added an uncanny emphasis that the Pope’s action demanded the world’s attention.

So, really, why did Pope Benedict suddenly announce that he would abdicate the ministry of Successor of St. Peter in only 17 days? It is nearly impossible for me to believe that the reasons are as simple as Benedict has stated (although I believe that he is indeed very tired and barely able to carry on which we saw on our last 2 visits to Rome).  There are clues.

Robert Moynihan, a reliable, long-time Vatican observer and Founder of Inside the Vatican magazine, also finds himself unsettled about the Pope’s announcement and wrote in his Feb. 12 report:

“Are there facts the Pope has weighed in making this decision that we simply don't know about, or don't know fully? … Does the Pope have information about the possible course of events in the months ahead that led him to conclude that he needed to allow a younger, more energetic man to take over his office from him, so that the Church's highest authority could take action quickly and decisively as events unfold?”

Those are my same questions.

This great and yet exceptionally humble and gentle man’s fatigue has come about from much more than aging.

Reading other commentators and looking to our own LifeSiteNews experiences have revealed a ferocious battle going on within the Catholic Church and a notably rising tide of hatred towards authentic Christianity from outside.  Moreover, a comment from Benedict yesterday, adds to the impression that resignation was decided for strategic reasons. A new pope had to be quickly chosen because of the pace of alarming events both within and outside the Church.

Yesterday, during his Ash Wednesday homily, Benedict stated:

“I am thinking in particular of the sins against the unity of the Church, of the divisions in the body of the Church.”

And then we should remember these words from his first Mass as Pope:

“Pray for me, that I may not flee for fear of the wolves.”

Is he fleeing from the wolves, especially those within the Church, who he knew would inevitably, incessantly attack him during his pontificate? Very doubtful. They have been even more ferocious than he anticipated in response to his determined rolling back of some of the chaos that followed Vatican II and his strong rebukes to all the elements of the Culture of Death. Benedict’s resignation should instead, in my opinion, be seen as a deeply humbling self-sacrifice to pave the way for an urgently needed stronger pope and stronger Church.

For nothing more than professionally reporting solid facts about controversial Church developments related to moral issues, LifeSiteNews has experienced unrelenting, ferocious assault from particular Church personalities and organizations over the past few years. We have been enduring a visceral hatred from some quarters as noted by LSN-friendly inside-the-church observers.  It has been nearly beyond belief, shockingly unreasonable and entirely unchristian.

The more layers we have peeled away from hidden and long-standing situations needing exposure and correction, the more we have we been subjected to these unjust and hateful assaults on our integrity and credibility and to damaging whispers and other malicious actions. The secular pro-abortion and homosexual activist forces have been easier to manage in comparison to these enraged forces within the Church.

Now think how much more Benedict has had to endure for his heroic attempts to steer the entire, badly damaged, diminished, wayward Church back on course away from the errors and influence of the “progressives” and other dissidents. They have been howling with rage over his undoing of their five decades of control.  He has spoiled their plans for a morally and theologically liberal church remade in their own image, rather than Christ’s.

Catholic commentator, George Neumayr, in his article The Reluctant Pope, lists some of Benedict’s notable accomplishments “trivialized and discredited” by many:

“his battles with the dictatorship of relativism,’ his promotion of wider use of the traditional Latin Mass, his reinstitution of the ban on the ordination of homosexuals to the priesthood, his historic overture to disaffected Anglicans, his voluminous stream of speeches and writings that aimed at repairing the catechetical collapse within the Church; his insistence on the ‘non-negotiable’ character of the natural moral law in shaping politics and culture.”

Benedict’s greatest and nearly-unbearable crosses have likely come from opposition to, hatred for, and outright rejection of his reforms - the opposition coming from many in influential positions within the Church – at all levels. 

 In his blog, Benedict XVI: Reason’s revolutionary, The Acton Institute’s Samuel Gregg explains some of the reasons for the animosity Benedict has experienced:

“Intellectually, Ratzinger far surpassed the usual suspects who want to turn Catholicism into something between the disaster otherwise known as the Church of England, and the rather sad leftist-activism of aging nuns stuck in 1968. But against the increasingly-absurd rants of a Hans Kung or Leonardo Boff, Ratzinger simply continued defending and explaining orthodox Christianity’s essential rationality with a modesty lacking in his opponents.”

Gregg also mentions the pope’s “efforts to root out what Ratzinger once called the 'filth' of sexual deviancy” which I have repeatedly noted on this website is a job still far from completed. He has been able to complete this and his other priority tasks only to the extent that the difficult Church bureaucracies and the world’s bishops have followed his urging and well reasoned pleadings.

There has been much resistance, some of it astonishingly vicious and rebellious, especially from clergy and laity in the wealthy, developed nations. Benedict has been betrayed even by those closest to him within the Vatican itself.

Benedict’s exceptional appeals to reason, if accepted, writes, Gregg, translate “into changes in lifestyles that many people simply don’t want to make. But a pope’s job isn’t to tell people what they want to hear.”

But as we have noticed in recent years, reason is increasingly rejected, and changeable feelings and desires are given more emphasis in decision-making by persons and organizations. Anyone who dares to instruct them in what is best regarding their bodies, their sexuality, their theology or their ego, is increasingly seen as a hateful personal aggressor rather than a loving father or other teacher.

I wish that Benedict could have held on for at least several more months to complete more of his necessary reforms and to appoint more faithful bishops.

I wish he could have waited for some of his recent outstanding archbishop appointments to receive their red hats so that they could also vote in this conclave. I am thinking of persons such as Philadelphia’s Charles Chaput, Montreal’s Christian Lépine, Quebec City’s Gérald Cyprien Lacroix and the archbishop of Los Angeles, Jose Gomez – all some of the very best of Benedict’s recent placements or moves to major dioceses.

The Cardinal Mahony scandal that broke last week has shown how very entrenched the “filth” still is, and that those responsible have still not yet been fully accountable.  The neglect was sickening. If the now revealed offences of actively protecting criminal sexual abusers of minors did not exceed the statute of limitations, we might today be seeing the archbishop of the largest diocese in the US up on criminal charges.

Even secular media are appalled that Cardinal Mahony has made it a point to announce to the media that he is looking forward to going to Rome to vote for Benedict’s replacement.

Mahony is an aggressive personality, some say, a bully. Considering all that has been revealed in recent weeks, it is a great scandal for the Church and to the world that this severely negligent prelate, considered by some to be the ring leader of “progressive” US bishops, should be allowed to have any influence whatever in the conclave. I hope at the very least that he will be shunned by the other cardinals.

It is perhaps more than coincidental that Benedict announced his resignation after the Los Angeles abuse files were made public last week. Archbishop Gomez publicly rebuked his predecessor (highly likely with papal approval) and then Cardinal Mahony arrogantly publicly challenged his rebuker’s admonition. This is a first since the sex abuse scandals broke.

Maybe the Mahony incident and other recent inappropriate outbursts by leading Church officials were the last straws for Benedict. That is, he knew that these and other worrisome developments needed quick and firm action from a strong pope, but that he could no longer muster the energy.

I suspect that Benedict knows the restoration and cleaning up of the filth and rebellion within the Church has to continue with haste because of an ominous, rapidly growing cloud of persecution on the horizon at a time when the wisdom and inspiration of the Church will be greatly needed. Perhaps he sees clearer than most what is coming and that there is no time to have an incapacitated pope leading the Church. His resignation was a proactive action.

There will be a conclave in only a few weeks. Who could have predicted such a thing would happen so quickly?

In that conclave the forces of good and evil will be in an unseen battle that we cannot imagine - pride, power and glory-seeking vs holiness, humility and willingness to embrace Christ’s cross.

The outcome of the conclave will to a very large extent depend on the intensity of the prayers and sacrifices of Christians around the world from now until the final decision and acceptance is reached.

May the Holy Spirit guide the cardinals and keep the powers of darkness that have infiltrated the church at bay during this historic time.

I have to agree with many commentators that Pope Benedict has likely performed a great act of humility and charity for the good of not just the Catholic Church, but for the whole world. Where I disagree with many is that there are graver reasons for his decision than are being surmised.

There is a growing sense that something evil is on its way and the greatest bulwark against the evil can only be a strong, unified and faithful Catholic Church working together with all other authentic believers of the loving triune God.

Benedict knows this. That is why he has suddenly stepped aside for the new pope, who will be called to do the necessary battle that Benedict is no longer capable of.

And he has done it at the very beginning of Lent, the Catholic season of special prayer and fasting that culminates in the full rememberance of the suffering and  resurrection of Jesus Christ at Easter. By then, the new pope should be in place. The timing could not be better.

The power of authentic faith, when unleashed, will always defeat any evil. It usually happens, however, by way of the cross. That was the example the Master gave.

25 posted on 02/15/2013 1:44:50 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer

I can only wish that he had stripped Mahony and others like him of any ecclesiastical authority before stepping down.


26 posted on 02/15/2013 2:36:41 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: BlatherNaut

“But the sheep, now having contracted rabies from their contact with wolves, and more ferocious in their own savagery than the wild beasts themselves, have always wanted to mangle and do violence to their Shepherd...”


Interesting metaphor.. hard to follow the logic..
Need further expansion of the logical operators..


27 posted on 02/15/2013 3:25:23 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: cherry

Welcome HOME!!! God is smiling because a lost sheep has been saved!!


28 posted on 02/15/2013 3:26:01 PM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: ottbmare
I can only wish that he had stripped Mahony and others like him of any ecclesiastical authority before stepping down.

He probably doesn't want to antagonize the liberal and moderate cardinals before the conclave.

A shame that Mahony will be voting. At least his East Coast pervert-protecting counterpart, Cardinal Law, is no longer eligible.

29 posted on 02/15/2013 3:27:45 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: hosepipe
Need further expansion of the logical operators..

Wolves - corrupt clergy

Sheep - laity corrupted by wayward clergy, who have now joined them in launching attacks on official Church teachings and on the Pope who promulgates them.

Wolf - e.g. Cardinal Mahony

Sheep - e.g. "pew potatoes" who follow his lead, and the lead of bishops like him.

30 posted on 02/15/2013 3:46:12 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

Interesting article. The Pope’s comment about the “wolves” in his first address came to my mind, too. Of course, he had been in the Vatican in one capacity or another for decades, so he would certainly have been aware of the wolves inside the gates, as well as out in the world.

I don’t know whether it’s an accute illness or just a sudden worsening of the accumulated pains of age, but whatever it is, he clearly feels that he is not only too weak to continue physically, but too weak to continue to fight against the wolves and that if he remains, they will somehow overcome him and thus be free to savage the Church.

I see him not only hoping to hand over the flock to a stronger shepherd, but perhaps hoping to draw the wolves off after him. And I think that they will continue to attack him, even after he is no longer Pope; but I also don’t think he is going to live much longer. However, perhaps they will be distracted for awhile, until they can get the measure of his successor.

I know the liberal wolves are going to do everything they can to undermine the conclave, just as the Dems used every conceivable dirty trick to steal the last US election. They are so convinced of the rightness of their “progressive” cause that they are not bound by any ethical concerns; and they don’t see the Church as anything that has to do with God, but as a political institution that gives them enormous power. Thus, they’re not afraid to act in ways that could not even remotely be considered Christian (or even legal, by most standards!). I think one of the reasons BXVI renounced the Papacy at such short notice was to give them as little time as possible to coordinate their strategy.

I am really afraid, not of the world, but of what might happen in the Church now.


31 posted on 02/15/2013 5:25:25 PM PST by livius
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To: NYer

Prayers for the Holy Father and the Church. Very interesting read - thanks for posting.


32 posted on 02/15/2013 5:44:47 PM PST by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: mlizzy; D-fendr; dmz

wrote:
I heard (and saw) it was a seagull, not an eagle, and the dove escaped.
Ah So... It was a bird that rose from the sea that attacked the bird of peace... interesting very interesting.


33 posted on 02/15/2013 6:02:58 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: NYer; BlatherNaut
"Even secular media are appalled that Cardinal Mahony has made it a point to announce to the media that he is looking forward to going to Rome to vote for Benedict’s replacement."

Maybe with enough prayer, that "bully" Cardinal Mahoney can be led to detect a subtle warning from those two lightning strikes onto the dome of St. Peter's, and change his evil ways and voting proclivities.

To use a baseball metaphor more commonly used with the St. Louis Cardinals, Cardinal Mahoney does not want to hear (in relation to lightning bolts from the heavens and himself), "Strike three!!! You're Out!!!"

34 posted on 02/15/2013 9:05:37 PM PST by Heart-Rest ("I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse; therefore choose life" Deuteronomy 30:19)
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To: NYer

Thank you for posting that. I got it this morning, but worked at church all day. Then our Serra Club led the Stations of the Cross tonight.


35 posted on 02/15/2013 9:23:50 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Samuel Gregg’s perspective on this really resonates with me.

We need to pray for the upcoming conclave.


36 posted on 02/16/2013 5:45:57 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: livius
You have some very good thoughts there. Agree with your analysis.

he clearly feels that he is not only too weak to continue physically, but too weak to continue to fight against the wolves and that if he remains, they will somehow overcome him and thus be free to savage the Church.

It certainly appears that way. Doubtful he would break with papal tradition without very serious reasons.

I know the liberal wolves are going to do everything they can to undermine the conclave, just as the Dems used every conceivable dirty trick to steal the last US election.

Do you mean liberal cardinals? I have read that the composition of the College of Cardinals has shifted toward greater orthodoxy under JPII and Benedict XVI. (Although some of their appointments could turn out to be wolves in sheep's clothing.) Cardinal Scola would seem to be the most likely choice if the goal is to continue along the path that John Paul and Benedict have established.

37 posted on 02/16/2013 7:52:49 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
Benedict’s renunciation and the wolves within the church
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Pope Benedict's Future Residence
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"Re-Elect Pope Benedict" - “Eight more years!”
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The Legacy of Pope Benedict XVI: A commentary by Fr. Barron
More details on papal resignation, conclave (Vatican Press Office)
Church doesn't bend, but endures
Who Will Take Up the Keys of Peter (This is a MUST READ!)
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Cardinal Bertone's Farewell Address to the Holy Father
"Thank You – Let Us Return to Prayer": For the Last Time, The Pope Leaves the Altar
"Today, We Begin A New Journey" – Liturgically Speaking, B16's Last Word
Vatican releases schedule for Pope's final days
Benedict XVI: Reason’s Revolutionary
Some Interesting Tidbits From Today’s Vatican press conference
Pope Decided to Resign After Cuba Trip, Vatican Advisor Says
Pope Says He's Resigning for the 'Good of Church'
Watch for the Anti-Catholics To Weigh in on the Papal Succession
The challenge Pope Benedict has left for his successor—and for ordinary Catholics

Historian Notes Precedents for Papal Resignation
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Pope Benedict XVI’s Musical Legacy
Benedict announces resignation and lightning strikes
DHS's curiosity piqued over Pope Benedict XVI's retirement and Catholic Prophecy
Prayers for Pope Benedict XVI
Pope Benedict's Devotion to Saint Celestine Signaled His Resignation from the Papacy
Cardinal Sodano to Pope Benedict: “We have heard you with a sense of loss and almost disbelief”
Pope's resignation invokes sadness, gratitude from US bishops

Pope cites waning strength as reason for resignation
Report: Brother Says Pope Was Considering Resignation for Months
Some Notes About the Upcoming Conclave
An Evangelical Looks at Pope Benedict XVI
Pope Benedict’s Resignation in Historical Context
Virtually unprecedented: papal resignation throughout history
Pope Benedict XVI:a papal timeline
"I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome" [Full Text]
Pope Benedict's Address on Resignation of the See of Rome
POPE BENEDICT XVI WILL RESIGN AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, VATICAN PRESS OFFICE TELLS FOX NEWS

38 posted on 02/16/2013 10:20:17 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BlatherNaut

**Although some of their appointments **

Not Benedict’s appointments. They have turned around the U. S. Bishops to a great extent. Yes, there are still some older Bernardin Boys or Jadot’s Tots in there. But they will be reaping their reward soon.

Remember the quote????

“The walls of hell are paved with the skulls of Bishops.”

Not a great reward, huh?


39 posted on 02/16/2013 10:23:14 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BlatherNaut

BXVI has done everything possible to shift it. He also returned to the formula of the 2/3 vote (instead of the 50%+1 that JPII had instituted), so hopefully that will slow them down.

Cdl Scola might be fine personally, but I think any Italian would probably still be too embedded in the centuries of insane curial tradition to make the changes necessary. The whole system has to be rebuilt, because JPII (as he became incompetent, which I think actually happened long before most people realized it) was completely overwhelmed by the curial wolves and they then effectively prevented BXVI from completing projects that should have been easy to accomplish simply because to do so might have impinged on their perks and power.

I just hope we don’t get the African who wants to establish a “global economic authority.” Like Africa, which lives entirely on foreign aid, knows anything about global economics? Or the Vatican, which lives entirely on donations, has any idea?


40 posted on 02/16/2013 3:02:19 PM PST by livius
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JPII (as he became incompetent, which I think actually happened long before most people realized it) was completely overwhelmed by the curial wolves and they then effectively prevented BXVI from completing projects that should have been easy to accomplish simply because to do so might have impinged on their perks and power.

Fascinating (and disturbing). What projects were these curial wolves interfering with?

I just hope we don’t get the African who wants to establish a “global economic authority.” Like Africa, which lives entirely on foreign aid, knows anything about global economics? Or the Vatican, which lives entirely on donations, has any idea?

Agree. His economic opinions are foolish in the extreme. If they elect an overtly socialist pope, donations are bound to decline, so they'll learn the hard way. I also noticed Cardinal O'Malley mentioned in an article another poster linked. He would be another unfortunate choice (socially and fiscally liberal). Anything's possible, though, particularly in the event of gridlock, where we could end up with a compromise selection from out of left field.

41 posted on 02/16/2013 4:43:03 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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