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“This is what we want the next Pope to be like” (theologians paint portrait of successor)
Vatican Insider ^
| February 15, 2013
| GIACOMO GALEAZZI
Posted on 02/17/2013 1:53:02 PM PST by NYer
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posted on
02/17/2013 1:53:04 PM PST
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NYer
To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Its first signatories were prestigious theologians such as Paul Knitter, Mgr. Calsaldáliga, Hans Küng, Leonardo Boff, Peter Phan and Paul Collins. The Vatican condemned Hans Kung and Küng, has lost his mandate to teach as a Catholic theologian. Was Theologian Hans Küng Ever Excommunicated?
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posted on
02/17/2013 1:55:52 PM PST
by
NYer
("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
To: NYer
The classic joke:
Somebody asked Professor Kung if he wanted to be pope.
"Oh, no, no" he replied.
And why?
"Because then I would no longer be infallible."
To: NYer
...Hans Kung stresses...
__________________________
We want what God stresses. Kung would give us the opposite...
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posted on
02/17/2013 2:10:33 PM PST
by
SumProVita
(Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
To: NYer
And we hear from the other side. I don’t pretend to understand all the things spoken of in the article, but gleaned enough to realize that this faction is opposed to what JPII and Benedict XVI represented.
The good news is that they are outnumbered.
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posted on
02/17/2013 2:12:49 PM PST
by
Netizen
(Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come.)
To: NYer
It’s so touching when non-Catholics think they have a right to run the Catholic Church.
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posted on
02/17/2013 2:13:51 PM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
To: Netizen
The papacys role needs to be clearly redefined in line with Christs intentions. As supreme pastor, unifying figure and the main witness of the faith, the Popes contribution to the good of the universal Church is key, theologians write. But his authority should never obscure, diminish or suppress the authentic authority Christ gave directly to all the people of God.
To: NYer
The other three have also been censured in one way or another.
This is nothing but pure agit-prop. It’s a waste of bandwidth.
To: NYer
“The various presbyteral and pastoral councils set up during the Council should involve faithful more directly in terms of decisions regarding the formulation of doctrine...”
In what regard? Does Kung deny the Petrine primacy?
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posted on
02/17/2013 2:22:24 PM PST
by
OpusatFR
To: NYer
Was this the LEFTIST/LIBERAL screed? LOL!
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posted on
02/17/2013 2:24:58 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: NYer
A pretty good rule in all matters is to do the opposite of what Hans Kung wants.
To: NYer
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posted on
02/17/2013 2:31:20 PM PST
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: trisham
I’m not Catholic, but find it fairly amusing that individuals who otherwise mock or denigrate the church suddenly seem to feel that their opinion should be considered - or wanted.
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posted on
02/17/2013 2:35:39 PM PST
by
Toirdhealbheach Beucail
(Am fear nach gheibh na h-airm 'n am na sith, cha bith iad aige 'nam a chogaidh)
To: Toirdhealbheach Beucail
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posted on
02/17/2013 2:36:44 PM PST
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: Toirdhealbheach Beucail
Im not Catholic, but find it fairly amusing that individuals who otherwise mock or denigrate the church suddenly seem to feel that their opinion should be considered - or wanted.I am Catholic and that's exactly what I feel only with more passion. I want to say they have a h*ll of a nerve.
To: NYer
Boff is at least as much of a mischief maker as Kung, especially in Latin America, where he was a major charter member of the Liberation Theology movement.
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posted on
02/17/2013 3:46:13 PM PST
by
Dr. Sivana
("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
To: Sacajaweau
But his authority should never obscure, diminish or suppress the authentic authority Christ gave directly to all the people of God. "Write your own religion. There is no objective Truth: each individual can decide what is 'true' for himself in accordance with his own will."
Or, as Satan put it, "You will not die ... you will be as God, knowing good and evil."
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posted on
02/17/2013 4:15:50 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Oh, what's the point?)
To: NYer
This is what we want the next Pope to be like
Katharine Jefferts Schori
To: NYer
bishops are vicars of Christ, not the Popes vicars. They have direct responsibility for the people and the dioceses and a shared responsibility along with other bishops and the Pope for the universal community of the Catholic faith. The bishops central synod, the documents reads, should play a more decisive role in planning and guiding the conservation and growth of faith in our complex world.The Bishops are bound to teach and pass on the faith of the Church, UNCHANGED. It is not up to the Bishops to change teachings based on what the people might want at any point in time.
Of course with theologians such as Hans Kung, and Leonardo Boff, what can you expect? They decided a long time ago that they didn't want to teach the Faith, unchanged, and they have had their facilities to teach removed.
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posted on
02/17/2013 6:53:07 PM PST
by
SuziQ
To: NYer
That such a letter can exist suggests what dangers face us. Kueng is a madman, a heretic, but he speaks for a sizeable portion of the Church .
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posted on
02/17/2013 9:46:09 PM PST
by
RobbyS
(Christus rex.)
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