Posted on 02/17/2013 6:52:42 PM PST by wesagain
"WND founder to launch national billboard campaign featuring the moral law"
WASHINGTON – America has turned from God and has forgotten right from wrong, says WND founder Joseph Farah, who is announcing the launch a dramatic new national billboard campaign featuring the Ten Commandments to help awaken believers and non-believers alike to “the wickedness and evil that abound in our country.”
The campaign kicks off this week with 11 major billboards – all in the heart of what some call “sin city,” Las Vegas. Farah is asking for contributions from those who recognize the Ten Commandments represent the glue that holds civilization together to take the campaign nationwide.
“The problem is America is not limited to atheists, agnostics, cults and non-believers,” says Farah. “In fact, the biggest problem America has is with those who call themselves believers but who act no differently than the worldliest individuals on the planet. You can call these people backslidden. You can call them false converts. Or you can call them undiscipled, nominal believers. What they all have in common is they are not in obedience to God. They are not even trying to follow the most basic moral law, as Jesus and the prophets all instructed.”
With that in mind, Farah is planning to erect hundreds of Ten Commandments billboards around the country in a move that is sure to annoy the American Civil Liberties ..........
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Ok, then how would you word the law codifying it? You are also quoting the noun form of honor. Being commanded to “honor thy father and mother” is the verb form. If you are to honor your father and mother, that honor must be earned. As I said, it’s subjective.
Who said anything about codifying it?
You are also quoting the noun form of honor.
So what? To enact Honor-as-a-noun is to make it a verb: that is, enacting it is to do it.
Being commanded to “honor thy father and mother” is the verb form.
See the above.
If you are to honor your father and mother, that honor must be earned. As I said, it’s subjective.
No, it is not 'earned'. That is a fallacy that we have today, encouraged (in the reverse) by the public-schools in something I term Appeal To Self-authority. In that form, the argument goes that the person in authority is in authority because they "earned it"*, and the proof of that is that they have authority. (*and are qualified, and morally unimpeachable.) This Appeal to self-authority is rampant right now: just look at our president, or our congress, or our supreme court.
Look, I think "do your folks proud" is a great rule of thumb for most people. But calling it a universal commandment is a stretch. If you're from the Manson Family, or the Hitler Family, a better Commandment would be to honor yourself, your own conscience, or your progeny. Once again, it's subjective.
Not at all; all one would have to do would argue that the Ten Commandments are universal. -- Of course if one wanted to they could counter that the Mosaic Law was not laid upon the early gentile Christians (Acts...16? -- basically they sent a letter w/ four commands).
If you're from the Manson Family, or the Hitler Family, a better Commandment would be to honor yourself, your own conscience, or your progeny. Once again, it's subjective.
I disagree; "do your folks proud" (which I read a being a credit to your family) isn't dependent on your folks, it's dependent on you... and how can you honor yourself and NOT be a credit to them? It is impossible, as far as I can tell.
Farah said that the legal system needed the 10 Commandments. I think it's reasonable to ask how that Commandment would be codified into law.
What do you think the Mosaic Law is? It is the codification thereof.
....My thought for the day....."Even though I don't claim to understand all things, my God and the author of The Book does. I can stand behind what He's written with confidence that He will stand behind me through all circumstances. Believe the Word of God and stay the course..... I don't let the world or other people choose for me which parts of the bible are correct and which parts we should overlook."
But US law is not Mosaic law. I’m not required by law to refrain from working on Sunday, and I’m not bound to follow any religious law. I don’t see what Farah’s point is about the legal system and the 10 Commandments, since unless you want to criminalize adultery (which has enforcement in some civil cases, like divorce), penalties against theft, murder, and false witness is already there.
The Sabbath is on Saturday.
I'm not Farah, I won't give you the 'point'.
since unless you want to criminalize adultery (which has enforcement in some civil cases, like divorce),
It's a possibly-capital crime under the UCMJ.
penalties against theft, murder, and false witness is already there.
But do those actually mean anything?
I could make a strong case that they do not, especially when you consider them applying [or rather not-applying] to our government. Fast & Furious was certainly based on false-witness (the FBI green-lighted those who should not have been), and its implementation is easily arguable as a conspiracy to murder [Mexicans]. The legitimization of theft certainly happened in 2005 with Kelo, and that's not even considering 'forfeiture' laws where they seize property under mere suspicions.
Yes, they do mean something. We have one of the highest incarceration rates on the globe and we execute a whole bunch of murderers annually.
According to this [somewhat dated] the average time is a little over 12 years. This newer data puts it as almost 15 years.
According to this list there were 49 [US] executions in 2012 -- how many murders do you think happened last year? Rapes?
I realize that's not exactly an apples-and-apples metric: the 2012 murderers may not have even been caught, much less tried, much less sentenced.... but it illustrates my point: that there are vastly fewer executions than there are even murderers -- and that is NOT taking into account the government's now-overt lawlessness: again, Fast & Furious provides an excellent example. The implementation thereof was either negligent homicide [in the case of mass incompetence], or it was conspiracy to commit mass murder [in the case that the intent was to provide weapons to the cartels for use in Mexico].
So yes, the laws mean something, and they are being enforced about as strongly as they ever have. I don't see anything in this equation that would be helped by posting the 10 Commandments on highway billboards.
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