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To: editor-surveyor; delacoert; patlin

The Mosaic sabbath is the ceremonial sign for which the destination/goal is the rest one receives in Jesus.

As you know:

He made a point, several times, to violate the pharisaical understanding of the commandment to show the new covenant was near.

It was simply not carried over to the new testament, unlike the other, moral based commandments.

Paul, in three letters, writes to the effect of the futility of keeping the sabbath law.

As to Sunday:

Jesus, being resurrected, met with the faithful on that Sunday, pentacost comes on Sunday, Acts 20:7 shows a meeting on the first day of the week, breaking bread.


159 posted on 03/11/2013 9:52:22 PM PDT by anathemized (cursed by some, blessed in Jesus)
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To: anathemized
The church records do not support your claim and Moses was not a Pharisee, Moses was a servant of God who the Word of God spoke to, the same Word of God who put on flesh and died for our sins.

See Acts 3:17-26 which is taken directly from Dt 18:15-22, 7:37-39, Rm 3:1-2 & Heb 3:7-4:13

Paul writes to the fultility of keeping Jewish oral law now called Talmud, he never speaks against the living oracles of God given to us through Moses. Know they law as there is more than one law Paul speaks of and they are not one in the same. Talmud teaches salvation through works, Torah teaches salvation through grace and obedience as evidence of that saving grace. (James 1-2) One law is from man and God's Law given through Moses by the Word of God who is also the voice of God, God's Law we are to establish (Rm 3:31) so sayeth Paul. You might want to restudy Eph 2:15 a bit harder and a bit deeper. The word written as ‘law’ there is not law as in the ‘nomos’ of Moses bit rather, Paul is referring to the ‘entole’, the statutes and precepts contained in the ‘dogma’, legal decrees of man (see Daniel and the decrees of the kings). One cannot read Eph 2:15 without considering its sister verses in Colossians.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances (dogma) that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15 And having spoiled (stripped) principalities and powers, he made a shew (mockery) of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

G1378 δόγμα dogma Total KJV Occurrences: 5 decrees, 2 Act_16:4, Act_17:7 ordinances, 2 Eph_2:15, Col_2:14 decree, 1 Luk_2:1

G1378 Total LXX Occurrences: 12 δογμα (10) Dan_2:13, Dan_3:10, Dan_3:29, Dan_4:6, Dan_6:8-10 (3), Dan_6:12, Dan_6:15, Dan_6:26 δογματι (2) Dan_3:12, Dan_6:13

G1378 Total GRC Occurrences: 6 δογμα (2) Dan_6:12, Luk_2:1 δογμασιν (2) Eph_2:15, Col_2:14 δογματα (1) Act_16:4 δογματων (1) Act_17:7

The Greeks never used the word ‘dogma’ in reference to God’s Law, NEVER!!! So it would seem that you have a choice to make, Rome that teaches a different Gospel than what was first given at Mt Sinai that was renewed in the blood of Christ, or God and true 2 Chron 7:14 repentance and a returning to God and His Way, the only Way the people who walked with Jesus knew about, was preached to about and could read it for their own eyes.

Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Neither Timothy or the Bereans had the letters of Paul or the Gospel accounts of Mt, Mk, Lk & John and since they were the first believers, we must be able to use the same Word of God that they did in order to be a fitting disciple of Jesus as they were and that Word is ALL contained in His Word that is left of Matthew, not right of John.

160 posted on 03/11/2013 10:15:37 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: anathemized

quick correction:

See Acts 3:17-26 which is taken directly from Dt 18:15-22, Acts 7:37-39, Rm 3:1-2 & Heb 3:7-4:13


161 posted on 03/11/2013 10:18:43 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: anathemized; delacoert; patlin

>> “Jesus, being resurrected, met with the faithful on that Sunday...” <<

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That is a deliberate mistranslation!

The Hebrew original said not “sunday” but “the first of the weeks,” which was a Havdalah convocation that always occured when the first day began, which was what we pagan fools call “saturday night.”

Nice try!

Yeshua’s sheep never met on “sunday.”


166 posted on 03/12/2013 4:40:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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