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To: Colofornian
1. If there is no God, there are no objective moral values or duties.

True, IMO, though this is itself not really an objective fact.

2. There are objective moral values and duties.

Well, I believe there are, but this statement is not a fact, it is a statement of belief. It cannot be proven in the same way a mathematical theorem can.

3. Therefore, God exists.

Anybody convinced by this argument knows nothing of logic. Both of the premises are statements of opinion, not fact. Only someone who already believes them will be convinced that the proposition is true.

To be clear, I agree, but it is a really poor argument to present to someone who doesn't.

8 posted on 03/12/2013 9:49:10 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
To be clear, I agree, but it is a really poor argument to present to someone who doesn't.

But since FACTs tend to show that more people are influenced by opinion than fact anyway; then percentage wise, it is a good argument.

11 posted on 03/12/2013 9:54:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sherman Logan

Got that right.


16 posted on 03/12/2013 10:34:09 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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