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The New Pope Believes He Is The Authority On How Children Should Be Raised And Educated
http://www.mommyish.com ^ | 3-13-2013 | Koa Beck

Posted on 03/13/2013 2:05:41 PM PDT by Maelstorm

The white smoke had come and gone and a new pope is among us. The Vatican has chosen Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Buenos Aires, Argentina. And although he’s not in favor of ”Kills the Gays” legislation like a contender (points!), he is predictably in line with the whole children need a mother and a father line of thought. Not a big shocker by any means.

The Guardian describes the archbishop turned pope as “a Jesuit intellectual” who has a very deep compassion for the poor (but not the gays!). Upon being made cardinal in 2001, Bergoglio reportedly told “hundreds of Argentinians” to not throw away money on a plane ticket to Rome to celebrate with him. He encouraged his supporters to give that plane ticket cash to the poor. The man has a heart….but not for the gays or their children:

He was a fierce opponent of Argentina’s decision to legalise gay marriage in 2010, arguing children need to have the right to be raised and educated by a father and a mother.

So nothing to really new to see here, folks, but thanks for coming out. Much like Pope Benedict XVI, I fully expect to see our new pope getting up every Christmas to rail against the evils of same-sex marriage and how it’s destroying our children one gay marriage license at a time. As opposed to, you know, not having access to health insurance via their parents’ relationship status.

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To: Maelstorm
"Does the Pope really have to be Catholic? ...Why not Ellen DeGeneres?"


21 posted on 03/13/2013 2:31:24 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Maelstorm; Salvey

“children need a mother and a father”

An unarguable truth since the beginning of time. And yet that’s supposed to be a bad thing. Disgusting, indeed.


22 posted on 03/13/2013 2:38:42 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Monorprise; AzSteven
"Social justice" is pretty vague, and actually a rather ambiguous term. He has been against the "Liberation Theology" wing for decades; he is a leading light in Comunione e Liberazione, a conservative Church moivement hich is outspokenly agains Marxism, especially in the aggressively Marxist university milieux in Italy and Latin America. So presumably there are some "University theologians" who know the difference between social justice and Marxism.

Could be he opposes the rich Obamunist banksters, which I don't have any opinion on unless you twist my arm WAY back. And then I'll say, "I'm agin' gangsters and banksters."

It's not something that comes up "de fide," anyhow. Meaning if it's not a doctrine on faith and morals, it's "prudential judgment," and therefore not a question on which he can speak with authority.

Thou shalt not steal.

Thou shalt not covet.

Whatevery you did unto the least of My brethren, you did unto Me.

Those are the authoritative statements.

23 posted on 03/13/2013 2:40:29 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("May the Lord bless you and keep you; may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.")
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To: madison10; Monorprise
“We live in the most unequal part of the world, which has grown the most yet reduced misery the least,” Bergoglio told Latin American bishops in 2007, according a recent profile in the National Catholic Reporter. “The unjust distribution of goods persists, creating a situation of social sin that cries out to Heaven and limits the possibilities of a fuller life for so many of our brothers.” --Cardinal Bergoglio

24 posted on 03/13/2013 2:41:10 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy

Well, that IS a pity.


25 posted on 03/13/2013 2:42:10 PM PDT by madison10
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To: mlizzy

Thank YOU mlizzy. We’ve prayed and cried today and now I feel joyful.


26 posted on 03/13/2013 2:44:12 PM PDT by potlatch (~be content with small victories and simple pleasures~)
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To: Monorprise

There is nothing wrong with the church promoting social justice as long as they use their ministries and own money to do it. The problem is when it enmeshes itself with what government ought to do.


27 posted on 03/13/2013 2:44:20 PM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: Daveinyork

Exactly and the idea that there is something wrong with disagreeing with biologically and theologically incorrect sex and relationships shouldn’t be used as a measure of compassion. I have compassion for many people especially those who are trapped in negative situations and lifestyles but please forgive me if I don’t praise and enable them to their own demise.


28 posted on 03/13/2013 2:44:51 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Keep in mind that the “authority” he claims, is the authority to say what God says via Natural Law: that children have a natural right to the love and care of their father and mother, and parents have, in the light of that right, a natural authority and obligation to direct the education of their own children.
That’s Catholic doctrine.

And Natural Law.

And this pope is — surprise! and against all Enemedia speculations-— a Catholic.

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And he’s right. Parents everywhere have abdicated their responsibilties to publik government skools, and even the medical liberal establishment.

I cannot tell you how they are beating us over the head wtih the idea that we have to ask parents to leave the room when we counsel adolescents ....young people at a very vulnerable time in life ...and yet we simply are asking that WE, and not their parents, give them guidance on important isssues. Why do we have to speak to these children alone without their parents? What is there to hide?

Many parents are simply drunk, on drugs, or just plain GONE out of their children’s lives ...or one parent is gone ... or the other is more interested in watching whatever sports game is one, or what time American Idol comes on ...or how much money they made in the markets that day ...or on the golf course ...or wherever.

It’s what’s wrong with our entire world ....horrible parenting, lack of family ... look what it leads to!

Parents have the authority ....they need to reclaim it and stand up to this overbearing nanny-State crap.


29 posted on 03/13/2013 2:44:59 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: ZULU

And I’, not even Catholic!!!

But you can be. We’d love to have you. :)


30 posted on 03/13/2013 2:47:36 PM PDT by diamond6 (Need scientific proof of God? Check out: http://www.magisreasonfaith.org/)
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To: madison10

It’s good if you’re rich to give to the poor; it’s the “forced” giving that isn’t right. I like this pope very much so far... :)


31 posted on 03/13/2013 2:54:09 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

32 posted on 03/13/2013 2:55:35 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Daveinyork

I’m not a Catholic and have my own issues with the doctrine. However, I admire a leader who speaks up for that doctrine.


33 posted on 03/13/2013 2:56:36 PM PDT by First Light
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To: potlatch
We’ve prayed and cried today and now I feel joyful.
Yes, us too!! :) We've got another great pope!
34 posted on 03/13/2013 3:03:37 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy

I think we were all tense about this, what with all the prophecies and all. Third one in a row that is not an Italian!


35 posted on 03/13/2013 3:16:00 PM PDT by potlatch (~be content with small victories and simple pleasures~)
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To: potlatch

Oh, but he is Italian, although his citizenship is from Argentina.


36 posted on 03/13/2013 3:30:49 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: madison10

How is it a pity?

I would argue that such an unjust distribution exists in socialist societies, or in tyrannies like those of Hugo Chavez.

I would look at the man’s track record before impulsively jumping (though I wish more of the elders in the Vatican would catch on to what passes nowadays as Liberal Lingo).


37 posted on 03/13/2013 3:41:18 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: conservative cat

Oh, I had missed that, although his name could have given me a clue. I think I was glad he was ‘distant’ from the ‘old school’ of the Vatican. At any rate, I’m happy with the choice although I wish he were a younger man.


38 posted on 03/13/2013 3:51:45 PM PDT by potlatch (~be content with small victories and simple pleasures~)
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To: Maelstorm

Well is the Guardian doesn’t like him, that is a point in his favor.


39 posted on 03/13/2013 3:54:17 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: Maelstorm
he is predictably in line with the whole children need a mother and a father line of thought.

So he's not swayed by modern lunacy? /clap

40 posted on 03/13/2013 4:01:39 PM PDT by mykroar (Sig is pending a Conservative party.)
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