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The trads have spoken! Pope Francis is not traditional ... enough. They are not satisfied with the work of the Holy Spirit in this conclave. I would be intrigued to know just who fits their papal mold.

Rorate-Caeli blogspot.

3 posted on 03/14/2013 8:58:51 AM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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The trads have spoken! Pope Francis is not traditional ... enough.

Some radical trads have spoken but they aren't representative. It isn't fair to characterize them way. Elsewhere, I saw trad comments running nine-to-one positive, and that was just about the count, too, so really only one guy was griping.

I saw around eight diocesan TLMs in Argentina; only one in the Buenos Aires diocese proper but there is apparently very little interest there. I see nothing to complain about at this time.

5 posted on 03/14/2013 9:14:48 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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NYer, was it the holy Spirit that selected Alexander VI, or the spirit of simony? What about the other “bad Popes?”


10 posted on 03/14/2013 9:45:38 AM PDT by LovedSinner
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Held for the first time in the country since Pope AUTHORIZE THE

He returned the Latin Mass, with women covered by blankets

One hundred savvy faithful old liturgy were yesterday in San Miguel Archangel.

Sergio Rubin
srubin@clarin.com

Four decades after the Latin Mass with the priest facing the altar officiating was replaced by the office in the language of each country and facing the faithful, the old way of celebrating was restored yesterday at a church in Buenos Aires. It was before hundreds of worshipers eager to participate in the traditional way.

The celebration took place 48 hours after Pope Benedict XVI signed the decree (motu proprio) that releases this modality. Until Friday, the Latin mass required approval of the bishop, that process is no longer necessary. From now on, to an order of the faithful, the priest must access.

However, the Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, arranged a fixed holding jurisdiction for the faithful locals offer a specific place and avoid the problem that many priests do not know oficiarla.

The parish is St. Michael the Archangel, in the downtown. His pastor, DOther Ricardo, is an expert in liturgy. Had to dust off the latest version of the old missal, 1962, provide for the altar, put six candles instead of two and achieve an organist who knew the old songs.

"In nomine Patris, et Spiritus Sancti et Filii" said DOther after 10, when reciting the sign of the cross with the start of the trade. Faithful mostly adults and the elderly, but also some young, blanketed several women, and almost all with missal, followed him with unction. Women were also quite long skirts. Was striking a family with three girls, all blanket.

Many attendees seemed very knowledgeable about the ancient liturgy. Even, not lacking some who slipped some discomfort because the celebration was not, in his view, entirely by the old way and mixed with modern elements.

Communion was received kneeling at the altar and in the mouth. There was no sign of peace, or prayer of the faithful, or offertory procession. "This way of celebrating Mass greatly enriched the celebration because it takes into account the elements of an ancient liturgical tradition," said Fabian leaving, 45. In turn, Carolina, 21, student of philosophy, thus considered "spiritually uplifting me more."

Father in his homily did not mention the way the celebrated. Then, asked journalists not to say that is the Tridentine Mass, but "how extraordinary Roman rite." So he sought to narrow the controversy surrounding his rehabilitation.

11 posted on 03/14/2013 9:50:04 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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Now, now NYer, the article was not quite as bad as you made out. They seemed to stick to the facts which are really par for the course; the Roman Catholic Church which should be the fountainhead of charity for all Catholics will bend over backwards for the likes of Barack Obama, but has precious little outreach for her most traditional devotees. Some progress has been made under Pope Benedict XVI but I have yet to see anything in these parts. The excuse is always that there’s no demand. Try once a year and see what happens, build from there. (They won’t of course).
Most of the complaint in the article centered around the valid point that an amalgam of Novus Ordo and Traditional Mass is not what the traditional Catholics are looking for and is truly a slap in the face along the lines of “Fine. You want a traditional Mass? We’ll give you our version and you’ll like it.” Again, where is the charity?
I currently have four daughters in Catholic school and you would be appalled at the garbage that I have to deal with. I’m not talking about anything that any serious Catholic would consider radical either. “Father, can we please do Something about the grinding being done at the dances?” My words fall on deaf ears. Everyone just wants to be liked, I guess. But no one gets nailed to a cross for being nice and well-liked, do they?


25 posted on 03/14/2013 4:37:53 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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The trads have spoken!

Some trads at Rorate Caeli have spoken. Michael J. Matt is a long time traditionalist Catholic and he has written a very sensible piece in The Remnant entitled "Pope Francis".

35 posted on 03/14/2013 10:37:12 PM PDT by ELS
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