Posted on 03/18/2013 3:31:12 AM PDT by NYer
Ping!
Translation: Chill-out traditional Catholics!
About Fr. Longenecker - a former Evangelical, then an Anglican priest, now a Catholic priest.
They believe if the write about it enough people will believe it making it come true. Liturgical delusion on the part of the press. What they have is an orthodox and therefore conservative Pope...and they cannot face it. So they make stories based on what they want, not upon facts that “are”... Thinking if they keep writing otherwise their wish will come true.
Excellent commentary, thanks.
We’ve gone a long way since “Lumen Christi” was exclusively done by the nuns of the Fransiscan order of my parish school Immaculate Conception, in the Bridgeport neighborhood of Chicago (now closed).The light of Christ pascal candle lighting services were done on early Holy Saturday morns during Holy Week. Cuminating the lenten observation following Holy Thursday and Good Friday services.
The nuns were supplemeted by the childrens and then the adult choir both of which I participated in. Services I add here when and where we were invited and always lightly attended. Then the explosion on Easter Sunday .
On then to the cross mix of latin sung by the mens choir in poly chant where we rehearsed relentlessly and congregational responses in Emglish for Holy Week services during the begining of the “changes” at another newly constructed parish church on the southwest side of Chicago.
To where we’re at now. Reconstucted hymns many using folk song melodys affixed to complicated lyrics or to the few traditional hymns with changed lyrics unfamiliar to both the congregation and choir. Some 300 that are packed is the diocease missalette. Church organists are in the habit of picking out new hymns to be sung by the congregation led by the choir at every mass. That practice is not only degrading to the services but discouraging to participants..
I have not found that the Spanish-speaking congregation fits into any stereotypical box. They like "modern" music, although their "modern" includes folk-devotional pieces that sometimes date to the 18th century. They don't always dress up (and when they do, it can be LOUD), but they all kneel, on the floor.
The Carismaticos are into hand-raising and audible prayer, but they're also some of the strictest in morals and most knowledgeable about the Faith.
Personally, I'm prepared to be happy with whatever Pope Francis does.
Well I wish Pope Francis would put out the word that Catholics DO NOT HOLD HANDS during the Our Father. He needs to tell his bishops to start cracking the whip concerning these very protestant practices. The key is to follow the priest. He does not hold hands with the deacon or anyone else during the Our Father and no one else should either! Damn, I get tired of seeing it!
Good article, although I could have done without the last statement.
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Yep. As a real little kid, my parents taught me to fold my hands in prayer, and when I was in first grade at St. Bernard's School, the nuns told us our hands should be together with our fingers pointed heavenward like little candles.
Now, everytime I pray with my hands pressed together, not only do I get to speak to God, but He blesses me with those relived memories of childhood innocence and the care and love my parents and nuns invested in teaching me :-)
No exaggeration, we really have them.
There are a handful of Hispanic/Spanish speakers who often show up at our Latin Mass (out of 20-25 total parishioners) I’ve never known if they are there due to missing earlier NO-Español Masses — ours is the last Mass of any kind during the day — or if their preference is actually the Latin Mass. They do follow the lay rubrics carefully. On the issue of clothing, these particular ones dress reverently, but once there was a lady with a low-cut blouse who insisted (before Mass started) on taking off her outer sweater to the consternation of her (more conservative) husband/boyfriend(?) They actually ended up having somewhat loud words outside the church building.
I have “The 2nd Amendment, America’s Original Homeland Security,” but it doesn’t correlate with any liturgical preference ;-).
Modest dress is just not a concept for many Latin Americans, even very decent, family-oriented people. Maybe it’s the warm climates where they originate.
Good article, although I could have done without the last statement.
...absolutely...what an idiotic point for him to close on...a true straw man comparison, since everyone would rather follow a competent and righteous priest over a self absorbed pompous sourpuss...where does he stand on two priests who are relatively equal in their approach...that is the question...
Translation: Chill-out traditional Catholics!
...you know, that’s exactly what they told reverent Catholics back in the late ‘60’s...oh the Mass won’t change, it’ll still be the same thing, and so on, and so on, although not quite with the insouciance you mustered...
...sure, chill out, you won’t even be able to tell the difference between the 1970 and 1962 missals...sure you won’t...
Well I wish Pope Francis would put out the word that Catholics DO NOT HOLD HANDS during the Our Father.
...what irks me more than that is the orans posture many people affect at the response to the Dominus vobiscum...I wish I could just shout do not do that, that is not the purpose of the response, but I would get into trouble...
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Yes, exactly. I've come to expect more than this of Fr. Longenecker.
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