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You are wrong in so many ways.

It only makes sense, since you would ascribe to Catholic doctrine that uses the book of Maccabees as reference. The book of Maccabees is not inspired by God. It is at best a historical record, and nothing more.

I have many problems with the doctrine of Purgatory, along with other elements of Catholicism, and I feel pushed to state them. So I will elaborate on them in an article I will post within the next week. However, I am at the moment preparing myself for Easter festivities so I am currently too preoccupied to take on the task.

I will ping you when I post the article.

Sound fair?

I expect a lot of feedback from my fellow Catholic Freepers, and I expect it will not be positive. However, I do expect it to be a thread to be remembered.

Don’t feel especially targeted though, because I plan on doing the same with Mormonism. I guess by the time I am finished I will have lost many a friendship I have built up through my 15 years on FR.

Actually, you are the one who's wrong -- I gave you scriptural references and you reply back with your own logic which is extra-scriptural

Why?

What part of "It is finished" do you not understand?

Christ said very clearly that He provided us the salvation, and He works IN our lives to sanctify us, this ending in the purgatory/final sanctification before heaven for those saved.

Read the Bible and you will see that
you were savedRom. 8:24 " For we are saved by hope:"
you are being saved Phil. 2:12 " Wherefore, my dearly beloved, (as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but much more now in my absence,) with fear and trembling work out your salvation."
you will be saved 1 Cor. 3:12–15 "12 Now if any man build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble: 13 Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide, which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire."

1 Corinthians 6: 9-11 do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God

The Bible does not contradict itself, it is clear that Christ's sacrifice was one-time salvation for our sins.

Those who repent, believe, eat of His body and blood and endure to the end accept this salvation

They are sanctified for heaven, right up to the final sanctification/purgatory

If you, OneVike say All works do is prove ones faith. then you contradict the Bible which says "with fear and trembling work out your salvation." and "If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire."

It is entirely correct to say that Christ accomplished all of our salvation for us on the cross. But that does not settle the question of how this redemption is applied to us. Scripture reveals that it is applied to us over the course of time through, among other things, the process of sanctification through which the Christian is made holy. Sanctification involves suffering (Rom. 5:3–5), and purgatory is the final stage of sanctification that some of us need to undergo before we enter heaven. Purgatory is the final phase of Christ’s applying to us the purifying redemption that he accomplished for us by his death on the cross.