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Protestants and the Roman Pontiff
Acton Institute ^ | March 18, 2013 | Jordan Ballor

Posted on 03/19/2013 8:04:51 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

Carl Trueman of Westminster Seminary makes some salient points about why Protestants should pay any attention at all to the doings in Vatican City:

Some may wonder what the point of reflecting on Rome is for a Protestant. At least threefold, I would respond. First, Protestants benefit from a conservative papacy: on public square issues such as abortion, marriage and religious freedom, the RCC has a higher profile and more power – financial, legal, institutional – than any Protestant group. We all benefit from the cultural and legal power of the RCC in these areas. Second, your neighbours probably do not distinguish between Christian groups. A sleazy, morally corrupt RCC is like a sleazy, morally corrupt televangelist ministry: we are all marked with the same brush in the public eye and our task of evangelism becomes that much harder. Third, RC authors often offer more penetrating insights into secular culture than their evangelical equivalents. Comparing George Weigel to Rob Bell in such circumstances is akin to comparing Michelangelo to Thomas Kinkade.

Therefore, while I have very serious theological disagreements with Catholic authors, I would suggest that they by and large offer well-argued, well-written and insightful commentaries on the state of the world in a way that is rare in evangelical circles. One can learn a lot from watching a great mind wrestle with a problem, even when one deems the conclusion erroneous; there seems little to be gained from watching a mediocre mind playing ping-pong with the same.

Trueman goes on to discuss the example of George Weigel in more detail. Read the whole thing.


TOPICS: Catholic; Mainline Protestant; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic
Some may wonder what the point of reflecting on Rome is for a Protestant. At least threefold, I would respond. First, Protestants benefit from a conservative papacy: on public square issues such as abortion, marriage and religious freedom, the RCC has a higher profile and more power – financial, legal, institutional – than any Protestant group. We all benefit from the cultural and legal power of the RCC in these areas. Second, your neighbours probably do not distinguish between Christian groups. A sleazy, morally corrupt RCC is like a sleazy, morally corrupt televangelist ministry: we are all marked with the same brush in the public eye and our task of evangelism becomes that much harder. Third, RC authors often offer more penetrating insights into secular culture than their evangelical equivalents. Comparing George Weigel to Rob Bell in such circumstances is akin to comparing Michelangelo to Thomas Kinkade.

Carl Trueman's full essay concludes with this:

Of course, I am in fundamental disagreement with Weigel's positive proposals on a large number of fronts. Yet he is addressing the same basic problem we face as Protestants: the abolition of human nature and the self-creation of the person, with all of the moral anarchy that implies. Weigel's answer, simply summarized, is that the RC Church needs to be the RC Church, to have its agenda set not by the culture around but by the gospel as she understands it. I disagree with Weigel on what the gospel is; and I find his uncritical adulation of the previous two pontiffs to verge on naïve sentimentalism; but I also find his hearty disregard for the cool and the trendy and the superficially relevant, from the intellectual to the aesthetic, to be something with which I sympathise. Would that more Protestants were less concerned with the young and the cool and more willing to have, in the words of David Wells, the courage to be Protestant.

1 posted on 03/19/2013 8:04:51 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy
Thanks, Alex. Interesting.

Who is Rob Bell?

2 posted on 03/19/2013 8:13:54 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you. May He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I think most of us Protestants do pay close attention to the Vatican because it does affect us even if indirectly.


3 posted on 03/19/2013 8:14:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Alex Murphy

Well my non-denominational Bible study prayed for him tonight and we prayed for the RCC when Benedict resigned.


4 posted on 03/19/2013 10:18:13 PM PDT by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Alex Murphy

personally any conservative leader in any denomination is a general benefit to christianity.

the more a pope is bible-based versus tradition-based is also a general benefit to christianity.

hopefully we see more of that in francis.


5 posted on 03/19/2013 10:34:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Alex Murphy

“...and I find his uncritical adulation of the previous two pontiffs to verge on naïve sentimentalism”

This could have been said by any liberal Catholic; they aren’t fans either.

Freegards


6 posted on 03/19/2013 10:37:35 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Alex Murphy
He makes some good points, but falls flat on his face at the end of the article:

That may not be good news for confessional Protestants - the Mass, Mary, the sacramental priesthood look set to remain;

You either get a Pope who's a Catholic, or you don't. A Pope who turns his back on core teachings of the faith but holds the line on moral and cultural issues isn't a realistic possibility. More succinctly: no priesthood means no Mass, no Mass means no Eucharist, no Eucharist means no Church.

7 posted on 03/20/2013 5:29:48 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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