Skip to comments.Pope Francis to live in Vatican guesthouse, not papal apartments
Posted on 03/26/2013 11:48:33 AM PDT by NYer
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Wow! Is this how Free Republic is seen? You've been here HOW long??? JFTR....you seem like a reasonably nice person and I never try to personally slander or hurt anyone here. HOWEVER...there are numerous issues with the Catholic Church with which I disagree and coming on threads and having the freedom to discuss them is part of what I appreciate about FR and continue to support it every month. Some of the replies from "your" side have been anything BUT civil, reasonable OR, even, Christian. Perhaps the remedy for hair-trigger defensiveness is to avoid OPEN Religion Forum threads that can and DO get contentious at times. There's been plenty of warning. Have a blessed day.
I think there’s pretty high security already, since the building has a number of permanent Vatican employee clergy residents and also is used to host high-profile guests. Having seen a photo of the room, I’d say that while while it’s not luxurious, it certainly looks formal and suitable. The building is a relatively new one, so I think facilities and even security will be much easier to maintain there. And it’s literally 2 minutes from there to St Peters Basilica and another minute to the papal apartment, where he will work and receive visitors.
Wow! The largest christian sect in Malta is the Maronite Catholic Church! You could not have picked a better time to experience the rich and profoundly moving liturgies of Passion Week. You can read about them here. All 4 Gospels of Christ's passion are read on Good Friday. There is also a funeral. Don't miss this!
He PERSONALLY called to cancel a newspaper subscription?
Nothing against him, he seems great. But it’s that interpretation of him that infuriates me. Why is it so special that a “man of God” would call and do his own business? Every freaking person I know does. Why is a pope, or cardinal, SO special that if they do something that 99 percent of the rest of us do, it means they’re humble. I canceled my own cable, does that make me humble?
Nothing against the catholic church. Far as I’m concerned they can spend their money how they want and the pope can live like a king. The catholic church is VERY generous to the poor and needy, so i am not complaining about them. I am complaining that people think the pope is God or something.
The Pope is not the one publicizing it. He just wants to live a simpler way. How is that contrived or ridiculous?
You are saying his humility is excessive?
Maybe it’s natural and not excssive.
Are you the arbiter and measurer of Papal humility, or just any peoples’ humility?
Are you licensed, bonded and certified in humbleness testing?
How is he “advertising” his life choices? He makes the choices, and somehow word gets out and newspapers write it up.
I don’t get why you mention “laying the groudowrk fo the simple man”. What on earth makes you think he’s “advertising”?
“Why is it so special that a man of God would call and do his own business?”
I do believe he is an idiot, but you are correct. I should not have pointed it out.
I don’t know anyone who thinks that the Pope is God.
What- 100 posts and nobody thinks this is a prudent move in light of the fact that the curia has had nearly a century to bug those papal apartments solid? I guess freepers have given up the tin foil for Lent!
It looks to me that Pope Francis is following the path of how Jesus lived and not immersing himself in the trappings of the office.
I sense he will learn and observe more here and his more public life may impress others to live their life for Jesus.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Except he's walked this walk for many years. It's being publicized now because he's the Pope, but by all accounts this is merely consistent with the way he's acted his whole life as a priest.
its OK, I aappointed myself the manners police
What a kind Christian heart you have!
A cousin’s 17 year old hemophiliac son died of AIDS. No decision on his part, he simply got a ‘bad’ dose of blood. Lots of stories like that about AIDS patients.
And the circle is complete. QED.
A blogger has coined the term “Totalitarian Humility”. I humbly offer this: “Ostentatious Humility”.
I believe there is an old Jewish saying “Too humble is half proud.”
There is also another relevant saying: “Everyone’s a critic!”
“Except he’s walked this walk for many years.”
Someone once said “Being humble isn’t thinking less of yourself, but more of others.”
Seems that by being more “in the world” in the cafeteria, Mass with the kitchen help, etc. he is in a position to reach out to others more.
How can you say that on FR? ;)
PS: I like the guy.
P.S. Does this “news” deserve 124 posts?
Better this than 124 posts to a naughty teacher thread.
There is a naughty teacher thread? Link, please!
They’re like a bus, there will be another one along in a couple minutes.
Im on Malta right now and will be here for Holy Week and EasterJust heard from my good habiba [friend] who lives in "mighty" Malta:
Election went the way I didnt want it to go! A difference of 36000 votes, which is big for Malta. Anyway, we were expecting it...Too bad on that score and also the prior legalization of divorce (which you've already mentioned). Here's a photo of an Adoration Chapel my friend's aunt takes care of in Malta. Maybe you'll see it! Enjoy your stay. What I wouldn't give to be able to be there. :)
I was thinking Gerald Ford. (He made his own breakfast at first anyway)
I, too, am very encouraged by Pope Francis. He appears to have his priorities straight and has the courage of those convictions.
Once again, I was referring merely to the superficial visual aspects of an ascetic monk. Goodness, people take things seriously.
I am reserving comments, but most Jesuits out here in CA are liberal socialists.
Well played, that verse! Well played!!
(Frowns. Taps fingers...)
We knew a guy that was very humble too and he lived poorly intentionally. He gave up his pay as a Catholic schoolteacher, but at the same time, his best friend/brother (who was poor as a church mouse) was raising a family not making ends meet. Sometimes I think the desire to remain humble (or to make a point) can get in the way of common sense. Bottom line, though, I don’t care so much where the pope lives; I just pray he remains a holy and humble warrior for Christ.
“Whats an Arkenfuehrer?”
There is a small town, Hope, from which he hailed. Besides the Bible so eloquently displayed on a Sunday-go-to-meetin’ walk I also remember the laughter stopping suddenly and a tear to be dabbed at leaving Ron Brown’s funeral when he saw the cameras aimed his direction...
It's prolly best to leave the combining of the two aspects... to the real pros.
Very good and articulate response. Thank you.
I appears you have figured this out, or so it appears to this low information non-Catholic. I shall pray for this Pontif to have the wisdom of Solomon and the grace of Nathan.
Thank you! The chapels that I see people pitting together here are really wonderful! I think I’ll be able to visit 7 churches fairly easily here...I was depressed to find, in another big city a couple of years ago in the US, that I couldn’t even find 7churches that were open for Adoration. Go Malta! But I’m afraid change is coming. I’m glad I got here when I did!
Please remove my distinctly un-humble comment. If you or the moderator have already suppressed it, I thank you.
Jesus came to be with sinners. I’m comfortable that Francis isn’t a Marxist. He doesn’t believe that the secular state controls the poor. He knows its his job to minister to them.
I like this Pope
He seem the type that would lunch with common folks in Vatican
I wonder aloud whether the PR folks are putting this stuff out, or if they are getting told to.
I have seen PR guys who need to make a story about everything. If he is truly this humble, he will put and end to these stories—and you will see a change to the communications department.
I’m very sorry if I offended you, dear steve86. Please forgive me.