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Holy Shroud:The essence of religion meets human science
Vatican Insider ^ | March 26, 2013 | GIAN MARIA ZACCONE

Posted on 03/28/2013 7:02:22 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 03/28/2013 7:02:22 AM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Shroud Video

Ping!

2 posted on 03/28/2013 7:03:14 AM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer

Whether you believe the shroud is the genuine article or not, you should still find it a most fascinating relic.


3 posted on 03/28/2013 7:06:43 AM PDT by ZX12R
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Rub your face with paint or colored powder and wrap a towel around your head, as like a shroud.

Unroll the towel. Look. Does it look like you appear when looking at yourself in a mirror or photograph?


4 posted on 03/28/2013 7:09:45 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: ZX12R
Whether you believe the shroud is the genuine article or not, you should still find it a most fascinating relic.

So true.

I've seen this shroud. It is aMAZing!

5 posted on 03/28/2013 7:13:20 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: NYer

Just the fact that this is a 3D representation of a dead body on a 2D piece of cloth should quiet the skeptics. But it hasn’t. And it won’t.


6 posted on 03/28/2013 7:13:23 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: laweeks

Skeptics will be skeptics - Thomas had to put his fingers in the wounds. The simple fact remains that no one knows how the image on the Shroud was made - and even with today’s advances in technology, that image cannot be duplicated.

Faith, of course, does not depend on proof; quite the opposite. But the mystery of the Shroud is fascinating, and inspiring.


7 posted on 03/28/2013 7:19:24 AM PDT by karnage
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To: laweeks
A two dimensional painting from the perspective of a viewer at a distance. Not from the perspective of a 3D blanket wrapped around a 3D head. Here:


8 posted on 03/28/2013 7:22:11 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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Once when reading an article on the Shroud I had my four year old daughter look at it’s picture. I asked her “Who do you think this is?” “Jesus” she said and went back to playing.

Faith as a child...


9 posted on 03/28/2013 7:26:11 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: laweeks

Yep. I understand doubt. Every thinking person should be critical and discerning. However some people can be so inconsistent. They can reject christ’s resurrection or something like the shroud yet believe 9/11 was an inside job.


10 posted on 03/28/2013 7:29:10 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: longfellowsmuse

Thank for that story alone gives me faith in our future.


11 posted on 03/28/2013 7:31:59 AM PDT by yobid (Catastrophic failure is the only solution)
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To: NYer

Relics are destructible and there are so many destroyers around.
Put it away.


12 posted on 03/28/2013 7:33:36 AM PDT by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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Ping for later


13 posted on 03/28/2013 7:44:16 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: cloudmountain

http://www.haltadefinizione.com/en/the-shroud.html

You can now get Sindone2.0 (the Shroud in HD)


14 posted on 03/28/2013 7:48:27 AM PDT by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: ZX12R
What science tells us about the shroud

The cloth was woven in the Middle East in the 1st century

It came into contact with a man who was whipped, beaten, had puncture wounds consistent with a crown of thorns on his head, a side wound and puncture wounds on his wrist and legs consistent with Biblical story of the Crucifixion.

It was very unusual to whip a crucifixion victim and the story of Jesus was one of the few recorded instances in the historic record. The reason for this was because it caused a too speedy death with too little suffering

Interestingly, the puncture wounds on his arms go through his wrists and not hands which is contrary to long held assumptions but was consistent with forgotten historical facts on Roman Crucifixion.

The flower pollen was consistent with flowers used in Jewish Burial rites in the 1st Century . Some of the flowers were only present in Israel and the pollen documents an early spring time frame constant with Passover and Easter.

The blood is human blood from a person subjected to great trauma.

The image on the cloth is a 3-D Negative that cannot be duplicated by hand art.

No one can tell how the image was applied to the cloth.

The technique seems to be similar to the also unexplained image of the Virgin Mary given to Juan Diego at for Guadalupe.

A re-sewn section seems to have been used to bind the body and shroud.

Do the probability analysis

15 posted on 03/28/2013 8:34:55 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: NYer
Others underline the importance of an object which is undeniably linked to the Passion of Christ
Ah, like global warming is undeniable? Just believing something doesn't make it true.
The shroud is scientifically fascinating, but no one will ever be able to positively link it to Jesus Christ.
16 posted on 03/28/2013 9:02:58 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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Rub your face with paint or colored powder and wrap a towel around your head, as like a shroud.

Unroll the towel. Look. Does it look like you appear when looking at yourself in a mirror or photograph?

Your simplistic comment denigrates the scientists and scholars who have spent countless hours investigating the Shroud. It is the single most research object in science. In over 115 years, with an array of very sophisticated equipment, THEY have not been able to show it's not an true image. It is NOT a contact image and your idea that a shroud was "wrapped" like a towel is contrary to fact and 1st century Jewish burial customs. Learn the facts before you so blithely dismiss something so ignorantly when you literally don't know what you are talking about.

17 posted on 03/28/2013 9:15:28 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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Shroud of Turin PING!

If you want on or off the Shroud ping list, Freepmail me.


18 posted on 03/28/2013 9:17:36 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: oh8eleven
The shroud is scientifically fascinating, but no one will ever be able to positively link it to Jesus Christ.

What if Jesus returns by stepping right out of the shroud and stands before us? That would do it for me.
19 posted on 03/28/2013 9:22:35 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: rdcbn
A re-sewn section seems to have been used to bind the body and shroud.

There is no "re-sewn section". This is a theory put forward by a textile "expert," Dr. Mechthild Flury-Lemberg, who was responsible for the disastrous 2002 restoration of the Shroud in which the Shroud, under her direction was vacuumed, washed, and stretched! There is a folded over section that has been sewn sometime in antiquity for strengthening when displayed horizontally.

20 posted on 03/28/2013 9:29:59 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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