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To: SunkenCiv
Well said.

Not well said at all, at least with respect to the purpose of the post which was to cast doubt on the genuineness of the Shroud. See post 33.

The denial on this thread by the skeptics is as mind boggling as the Shroud itself. The Shroud is either a fake;, the image of Christ; or the image of someone else. There is no other option. The scientific evidence collected to date indicates beyond a reasonable doubt that it is not a fake. Now if someone wants to continue calling it a fake, or implying it is a fake, then they need to deal with the evidence by either debunking it or coming up with a plausible alternative for it, and not simply put their head in the sand and ignore it. .

So the Shroud either shows the image of Christ or the image of someone else who was crucified in exactly the same way at about the same time and place, and either resurrected as Christ did, or put the image on the cloth in some other way. So in reality, contrary to your statement that there is no conceivable way to show that the Shroud is the burial cloth of Christ, it is actually inconceivable that it is NOT the burial Shroud of Christ.

45 posted on 03/29/2013 6:03:02 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: HerrBlucher

The book “It is the Lord”, which came out circa 1972, offered just two options — fake or the actual burial shroud of Christ.

When it emerged in the Middle Ages, it was known to be a fake, and the letter from the local ecclesiastic authority to the higher ups survives. It doesn’t name the fraudster, but states that the name was known to the author of the letter.

The RC dating was conclusive, and matches the information found on the sole surviving documentary evidence contemporary with its first appearance — so naturally it is not accepted by the True Believers.

There’s no logical sequence to lead anyone to the conclusion that the cloth served as the burial shroud of Christ. The reason there is no way to find scientific evidence is that there’s no forensic evidence from the crime scene, no body, no chain of custody tissue samples, etc. Understand? No way to prove it was used as the burial shroud of Christ.

Furthermore, there’s no way to prove it was ever used as anyone’s burial shroud.

The denial on this thread by the True Believers is as mind boggling as the chant by the global warming advocates.


69 posted on 03/31/2013 6:03:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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