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Hell hath no fury like an atheist scorned
Mail Online ^ | 4-3-13 | Craig Brown

Posted on 04/07/2013 3:37:02 PM PDT by ReformationFan

Over the past few years, evangelical atheists have switched places with fire-and-brimstone Christians: where once it was the Christians who brooked no disagreement, now it is the atheists; and it is the atheists, too, who perform cartwheels on the heads of pins.

Christopher Hitchens once even managed to argue of the Reverend Martin Luther King, of all people, that ‘In no real as opposed to nominal sense . . . was he a Christian’.

A weaselly self-righteousness is now the hallmark of the celebrity unbeliever. Meanwhile, it is the Christian who nods diligently in any discussion, taking pains to reassure the atheists how very much he respects their point of view.

Atheist Christopher Hitchens (left) questioned whether Rev. Martin Luther King (right) was a Christian

In the latest edition of Prospect magazine, the philosopher A.C. Grayling writes another of his pieces in support of atheism. In it, he exhibits a deft sleight-of-hand which, viewed close-up and in slow-motion, looks more and more suspicious.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Current Events; History; Skeptics/Seekers
KEYWORDS: atheist; dawkins; hitchens; hitler; humanism; mlkjr; stalin

1 posted on 04/07/2013 3:37:03 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Christopher Hitchens now KNOWS there’s God.


2 posted on 04/07/2013 3:45:45 PM PDT by FiddlePig
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To: ReformationFan
Christopher Hitchens (left) questioned whether Rev. Martin Luther King (right) was a Christian.

Did MLK ever preach the real Gospel? All of his so-called sermons that I recall were centered upon the false doctrine of "social justice", a communist orthodoxy, contrary to the Word of God. Even during his last days on earth, King was marching on behalf of a leftist government union, American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. There was little, if any, of Christ's teachings in the words MLK spoke from the pulpit.

3 posted on 04/07/2013 3:57:15 PM PDT by re_nortex
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To: ReformationFan
A weaselly self-righteousness is now the hallmark of the celebrity unbeliever.

and there it is...

4 posted on 04/07/2013 4:04:00 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Self-righteousness is just a phony form of respectability and pretty much all of today’s ‘’celebrities’’ are as phony as they come.


5 posted on 04/07/2013 4:30:33 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: ReformationFan

Atheists would be a great deal more interesting if they weren’t so boring.


6 posted on 04/07/2013 4:31:27 PM PDT by stevem
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To: re_nortex
There was little, if any, of Christ's teachings in the words MLK spoke from the pulpit.

Just curious: How many of King's sermons/speeches have you heard?

7 posted on 04/07/2013 4:44:49 PM PDT by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: re_nortex
Ironically in God Is Not Great Hitchens greatly PRAISES MLK as a true "man of God, if God existed". It's almost comical how he bashes everyone "religious", except MLK who was a "saint".

FWIW, MLK is about 1000X more tolerable than modern black leaders like Sharpton and Jackson.

8 posted on 04/07/2013 4:50:27 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: ReformationFan

I thought it was “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned by the other, other woman!!!”


9 posted on 04/07/2013 4:54:58 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: newheart
Just curious: How many of King's sermons/speeches have you heard?

I've heard (or read) quite a a few of his utterances, including these vile, most un-Christian words from MLK about Ronald Reagan and the patriots who supported him:

"When a Hollywood performer, lacking distinction even as an actor, can become a leading war hawk candidate for the presidency, only the irrationalities induced by war psychosis can explain such a turn of events."

10 posted on 04/07/2013 5:02:34 PM PDT by re_nortex
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To: jmacusa
100%
11 posted on 04/07/2013 5:07:11 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: re_nortex

Reagan didn’t run for president until 1976.


12 posted on 04/07/2013 5:08:39 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: boop

You should also note that both Sharpton and Jackson loudly proclaim that they are “reverends”.

Sharpton has one “doctor of divinity”, which makes him a reverend. In his case it was voted by his congregation. That is, a church “voted” that he was a reverend. Later, some college gave him an *honorary* second D.D.

Jackson actually attended a theological seminary in Chicago, but did not graduate. He was also voted a “reverend” by his church. So Jackson also has a D.D.

Oddly enough, in Britain, a D.D. is one of the highest *earned* degrees. Not a joke, like it is in the US.


13 posted on 04/07/2013 5:10:50 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: re_nortex
My mistake. I thought you were (mistakenly) concerned that there was nothing in MLK's speeches about the Gospel. Instead you are just upset that he exercised his freedom of speech (and his freedom to be mistaken) by criticizing Ronald Reagan.
14 posted on 04/07/2013 5:15:40 PM PDT by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: re_nortex
There was little, if any, of Christ's teachings in the words MLK spoke from the pulpit

Christ instructed his followers to "take up their cross and follow me". Based on these instructions, Christ clearly didn't want his followers dwelling on worshiping him and/or endlessly repeating his words and/or re-telling the story of his cross, rather than focusing on their own service - their own cross - to address the needs of their time.

His instructions to his followers - to "take of their cross" - means finding a good and noble purpose for their lives in the service of others, even if it ultimately means they need to pay the ultimate sacrifice. And clearly, that is what MLK did.
15 posted on 04/07/2013 5:24:53 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: tired&retired

‘’There is no Hate like the Hate that Love hath turned; and Hell hath no Fury like that of a woman scorned.’’


16 posted on 04/07/2013 5:30:13 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Fuzz

Ronald Reagan ran for the presidency in 1968 including a primary win in California, winning the popular vote by a slim margin. With Reagan on the national stage, that’s why Martin Luther King spoke in such a hateful manner against him in November 1967 at the National Labor Leadership Assembly for Peace.


17 posted on 04/07/2013 5:31:18 PM PDT by re_nortex
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18 posted on 04/07/2013 5:44:45 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: ReformationFan
Atheists don't call themselves "atheists" anymore--it's "Free Thinker"...

OK, so if science is their belief then how can they claim, "There is no God"? For starters, science requires that your hypothesis be testable, and there's no way to test the theory that there is no God. You would have to look for God under every rock in the universe to prove your theory. That's why science also dictates that "you can't prove a negative", yet atheists Free Thinkers base their beliefs on a stated non-starter within their own belief system, science.

BTW, I'm not an anti-science Neanderthal; I'm an engineer that makes a good living through science...by the grace of God.

19 posted on 04/07/2013 5:45:48 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: randog

” ....a freethinker does not mean a man who thinks for himself. It means a man who, having thought for himself, has come to one particular class of conclusions, the material origin of phenomena, the impossibility of miracles, the improbability of personal immortality and so on..”

G.K. Chesterton “Orthodoxy.”


20 posted on 04/07/2013 6:13:57 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: randog
Atheists don't call themselves "atheists" anymore--it's "Free Thinker".

I don't call them atheist either. I call them god haters. They express their hatred by claiming that the Lord doesn't exist.
21 posted on 04/07/2013 6:16:52 PM PDT by redheadtoo
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To: FiddlePig
More likely he doesn't know anything at all ~ just gone ~ erased from the great mandala like he'd never really exist.

Hard to believe but there are people who imagine we just keep coming back and coming back and that we strive to get off it through advanced spiritual enlightenment, and there you have Chris Hitchens getting a free boot for being a gadfly philosophical debater. 2 Billion Buddhists and Hindus are undoubtedly screaming that it's just not fair!

22 posted on 04/07/2013 6:24:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: HerrBlucher

Excellent quote.


23 posted on 04/07/2013 6:58:53 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: muawiyah
"Hard to believe but there are people who imagine we just keep coming back and coming back..."


24 posted on 04/07/2013 7:29:12 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: ReformationFan

I love having conversations with atheists like this:

“Don’t you know that Christianity is responsible for slavery, and murder, and ....”

“Well, you can’t relate that directly to the teachings of Christianity - the New Testament says nothing even close to that, but atheist governments killed 100 million people in the last 100 years.”

“WAIT THAT’S NOT TRUE AT ALL, THAT WASN’T A RESULT OF ATHEISM DIRECTLY!”

“Then why did Stalin conduct most of his gulag round-ups while his anti-religion purges were occurring? Why did Pol Pot purposefully slaughter 99% of the Buddhist monks of his country? Why is China imprisoning, torturing, and murdering Christians and the Falun Gong even today?”

*Atheist’s head explodes*


25 posted on 04/07/2013 7:38:08 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: ReformationFan

I always say that atheism is a religion. It boils the blood of the atheists who are the smartest people in the room. They will tell you themselves.


26 posted on 04/07/2013 7:41:22 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Darren McCarty

>>I always say that atheism is a religion. It boils the blood of the atheists who are the smartest people in the room. They will tell you themselves.

Yeah, if they deny it than I say, “God does not exist is a faith statement.” Then they usually go on about science, to which I say, “So science has never been wrong about anything.” Then they usually call me names.


27 posted on 04/07/2013 7:43:07 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: struggle

Exactly.

“Don’t you know that Christianity is responsible for slavery, and murder, and ....”

So do they realize that statement says there was never any murder or slavery prior to the birth of Christ? :? Even non-Christian historians know better than that.


28 posted on 04/07/2013 8:12:01 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: randog
I heard this about 30 years ago on the NPR show "Ask Doctor Science": What is the difference between a scientist and an engineer?
Scientists are bearded, balded, and are atheists. Engineers have crew cuts, wear glasses, and are Lutheran.
I have to laugh at this because it seems that half of the men at our church (WELS Lutheran) are engineers working in the auto industry. I live in suburban Detroit, by the way.
29 posted on 04/08/2013 6:50:28 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: HerrBlucher

Although questions abound as to whether Chesterton actually said this, I think it’s appropriate here: “A man who won’t believe in God will believe in anything.”


30 posted on 04/08/2013 5:47:26 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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