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USCCB hires Sarah Palin advisor as Cardinal Dolan’s spokesperson
The Deacon's Bench ^ | April 29, 2013 | Deacon Greg Kandra

Posted on 04/29/2013 4:01:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: ansel12
that's a pity

as a rule I have more in common with AOG than non denominational

i did not know that

so many churches today refuse to say what they are...especially suburban churches down here...which we have so many...man up north there are few churches..maybe 10% of down here...if even that...astounding

sometimes it means something

sometimes not

mine is called Thompson Station Church...an SBC outfit...a praise contemporary place ..usually..but extremely traditional politically

maybe her non denom is less Rick Warren..I hope so

81 posted on 04/30/2013 9:38:54 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good, maybe some of Palin’s uncompromising Pentecostal moral code will rub off on that compromised bunch of bureaucratic poseurs seeking political accomodation from the Obama administration.


82 posted on 04/30/2013 9:50:10 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: wardaddy

Rick Warren is a Southern Baptist, Palin is a non-denominational Christian attending the conservative, Wasilla Bible church.


83 posted on 04/30/2013 12:36:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult)
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To: Salvation
will always be marked as a Catholic whether she is a practicing

Not to quibble, but I don't think that's quite right (CCC 1267-74). My understanding is that ANY legitimate baptism (i.e. trinitarian formula as in Mt 28:19) configures the individual to Christ. Her baptismal seal was recognized by the Church (along with the vows of parents/godparents) as incorporating her into the Catholic Church. But the baptismal seal itself wasn't a Catholic mark per se. Rather it was administered by God during a rite performed by a Catholic priest. This is why most nonCatholic converts aren't baptized when brought into full communion with the Church at the Easter vigil. It's only required for the unbaptized or those baptized in traditions that don't use a trinitarian formula.

The Church may always consider Palin a separated member but that's because she once attained membership via her indelible baptismal mark and the vows made. It isn't because that baptismal mark contained something uniquely Catholic that's absent in valid nonCatholic baptisms. The Church would always consider me a separated member too if I, as a convert with a nonCatholic baptism, renounced the faith (God forbid!). At least this is my understanding.

84 posted on 04/30/2013 1:05:48 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: PeevedPatriot
The Catholic position is that just as circumcision was the sign (or seal, Rom 4:11) of membership in and means of initiation into the covenant of Abraham, so baptism is the seal (indelible mark pressed upon us) and means of initiation into the New Covenant of Jesus (Col 2:11-12).

Amen the seal of the Holy Spirit.

As a side note, what's with all the comments removed by the moderator? Looks like a war was fought on this thread!

85 posted on 04/30/2013 1:17:34 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: ansel12

Rick warren is a poor example Southern Baptist

He’d be shunned here

He’s Kali style

I’m embarrassed by association

My only issue with Pentecostals is I don’t do tongues and some go huckster

I like some. PCUSA too

I have been told I might like doctrinaire Anglican

Man...you are raining in my assumptions

Palin no longer pentecostal and Warren a member of my own tribe

Don’t tell be Franklin Graham is now a lutheran please..lol


86 posted on 04/30/2013 1:33:39 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: FourtySeven

Don’t know. Didn’t see anything before it was removed. IMHO the religion mods do a decent job of removing the most offensive of the personal attacks that occur on these kinds of threads. My guess is that someone wasn’t manifesting an abundance of fruits of the Spirit ;)


87 posted on 04/30/2013 2:03:12 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: PeevedPatriot
Catechism of the Catholic Church

 
 
1272 Incorporated into Christ by Baptism, the person baptized is configured to Christ. Baptism seals the Christian with the indelible spiritual mark (character) of his belonging to Christ. No sin can erase this mark, even if sin prevents Baptism from bearing the fruits of salvation. Given once for all, Baptism cannot be repeated.

88 posted on 04/30/2013 6:36:31 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

That’s what I said :) Configured to Christ not configured to the Catholic Church. Peace be with you :)


89 posted on 04/30/2013 6:41:40 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: PeevedPatriot

Please read it again. Once baptized as a Catholic the mark is there and a person can not be baptized again.


90 posted on 04/30/2013 6:51:03 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: PeevedPatriot

PS. This IS the Catechism of the Catholic Church.


91 posted on 04/30/2013 6:51:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I know :) It says baptism configures the person to CHRIST not to the Church.


92 posted on 04/30/2013 6:54:54 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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