Does Christ "look down" upon us from heaven?

The New Theological Movement ^ | 5/9/2013 | Father Ryan Erlenbush

[Cyclops08]

I don’t see a point to this.
Jesus can “see” us any way He wants too. You’re spending way too much time on an established fact. relax and don’t worry about it.

[1raider1]

However, we assert that heaven is not a “place” in the way that there is “place” within our universe – heaven is not out among the stars. Rather, we say that heaven is “glorified place” or “uncontained space”, meaning that it is not within our universe or contained within our universe.

Look, this talk of "outside the universe" and "other universes" is bunk. The term "The Universe" is the designation for ALL there is. There is only ONE Universe. That's why it's called The Universe. If something is outside the Universe, it doesn't exist. Heaven is indeed within the Universe. If Jesus is alive physically, He's in the Universe. If He's not in the Universe, then He is a spirit and all of the things concerning eternal life, as related in the Bible, are untrue.

[circlecity]

"If something is outside the Universe, it doesn't exist."

Then where was God before he created the universe?

[1raider1]

That’s easy, He WAS the Universe.

[1raider1]

I should have added, and He still is.

[jsanders2001]

Is this “new theological movement” an attempt to subvert Christianity using intellect by non-believers charading as theologians? Reading through all the BS I think the writers real message is that Jesus is not here and we have been abandoned. The nature of the message does not “feel” Christian and I will use “discernment to ignore it. I may be wrong but that us what I get out of it. 1st Corinthians touches on how men err on intellectualizing Christianity and how it interferes with having a true relationship with God which is how the nature of the article strikes me. The dark forces are keeping us on our toes lately. If you don’t know the Word and the Truth you will be deceived.

[Cyclops08]

Yeah, the message feels off to me as well. I was thinking cultic, but this makes more sense.

[marygam]

I choose to believe that Jesus is with me, beside me and listening to me when I pray. Don’t really get into this whole outside the Universe or not. He is with me.
Period.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

I’ll bet Jesus, on orders from God, is looking down on the U.S. right now with a Heavenly Nordstrom BB (Brimstone Bombsight) right now looking to find the right spot to target.

[BipolarBob]

two glorified bodies present there (namely, Jesus’ and Mary’s)

Unscriptural to presume Mary is there. Mary was a person, the same as anybody else here.

[circlecity]

"That’s easy, He WAS the Universe."

I have no idea what that means and it doesn't answer the question.

[1raider1]

You might want to do a little more research on who made the bombsight in your post.

[Iscool]

What a convoluted mess...This is the epitome of human philosophy...A daydream based on anything except the words of God, the Bible...

[Venturer]

Need to keep my idea’s on this to myself.

UMMMM HMMMM

[Blackirish]

Maybe your house?

[MosesKnows]

Where did Christ ascend to?

I think you have missed the entire point of Christianity. Perhaps this Short Video will help explain where God is.

[CatherineofAragon]

" Indeed, while his glorified bodily eyes have no power to see us, he can look at us with the eye of his human intellect."

What kind of ridiculous stuff is this? The all-powerful Co-Creator of heaven and earth has "no power?"

" He certainly has not forgot us!"

"Has not forgot"...are you kidding me?

[stuartcr]

Do you think anyone actually knows?

[newheart]

That’s easy, He WAS the Universe.

I should have added, and He still is.

I take it from your capitalization of the word "He" that you are a believer. But, as I understand it, Romans chapter 1 speaks pretty clearly about confusing God with the created order. To say that He is the universe, it largely a form of what Francis Schaeffer called "pan-everythingism."