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To: HarleyD


Well if you define ““Free will” implies that we can freely choose to live a life like Christ on our own volition.
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I defined “free will” as the choice to sin or not to sin.

My understanding is that before Jesus people had to sin.

After Jesus believers can choose—and have to ability to choose— to sin or not to sin.

That’s why Jesus is considered to be the new Adam.


7 posted on 06/01/2013 6:43:55 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer; HarleyD

“I defined “free will” as the choice to sin or not to sin.

My understanding is that before Jesus people had to sin.

After Jesus believers can choose—and have to ability to choose— to sin or not to sin.”


I’d becareful with a conclusion like this. Paul himself suffered greatly from the sin nature still present in his members (as do we all):

Rom 7:14-15 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. (15) For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

There is also no sense in this (just to clarify) that we can choose to commit the sin of unbelief, as Christ is quite clear that all those who belong to Him “will come” to Him.

Joh_6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

The work of God on our hearts, turning our stony hearts into a fleshy heart, is not an imperfect work on His part. It is not a choice on God’s part that can backfire really badly. This regeneration gives to us a heart that, by the infallible will of God, “shall come to [Him]” no matter what. And though we go through our fits, our losses, and our failures, yet God works in us “both to will and to do,” and so orders the events in our lives, that we are always brought back to His throne to confess “I did not choose you, you chose me, and ordained me, that I should bring froth fruit, and that my fruit should remain.” But this new regeneration does not imply that we are free of our sin nature, or that we are guaranteed perfection in knowledge, or perfection in even our good works. What it does guarantee is that:

Rom 8:28 ... all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.


10 posted on 06/01/2013 7:17:19 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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