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Apostolic Succession and the Roman Catholic Church
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Posted on 06/13/2013 10:02:02 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

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To: JCBreckenridge; caww

Resorting to snarky again?


81 posted on 06/13/2013 2:00:00 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: John O

Excellent! You nailed it and I appreciate that post. Thank you.


82 posted on 06/13/2013 2:03:17 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
That simply reveals the “Inner man”...as mentioned...”You will know them by their fruits” which not only applies to true believers, but to those who masquerade as such...and or unfamiliar with the truth God wants them to know.
83 posted on 06/13/2013 2:06:22 PM PDT by caww
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To: CynicalBear
That simply reveals the “Inner man”...as mentioned...”You will know them by their fruits” which not only applies to true believers, but to those who masquerade as such...and or unfamiliar with the truth God wants them to know.
84 posted on 06/13/2013 2:06:22 PM PDT by caww
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To: Wuli

Christ gives us some advice on this, btw. It’s important to be able to discern truth from falsehood.


85 posted on 06/13/2013 2:11:43 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: CynicalBear

Nope. But the only thing all protestants have in common is that they are not Catholics.


86 posted on 06/13/2013 2:12:42 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“So looks like he has two quotations of scripture, one partial, one in full, and the third one an explanation of what the two verses teach.”

There’s only one there. Dr. E. Mixing scripture with not scripture is generally frowned upon unless you’re protestant.

Good to have you back again.


87 posted on 06/13/2013 2:14:13 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: CynicalBear

“Wouldn’t that be like asking if you are in unity with the pedophile Catholic Priests or those that participated in the cover up? Maybe you are in unity with the Catholics who support abortion?”

Well, are you CB? You’re both protestants.

We differ between those who are in good standing, and those who are not. Those who are not are not to recieve because they are at present, divided from the body.


88 posted on 06/13/2013 2:16:00 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: CynicalBear

you are trying to argue the logic of scripture against the rationale of institutional “tradition”


89 posted on 06/13/2013 2:23:01 PM PDT by Wuli (as)
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To: CynicalBear

“Oh really? PETER is NOWHERE called the Apostle to the Gentiles! This precludes him from going to Rome to become the head of a Gentile community.”

Just as it doesn’t record St. Thomas going to India or St. Mark going to Ethiopia.

That was the entire point, CB. The argument made is that these two churches were older than the Church in Rome, which seems a rather silly argument.

This is an even worse one. Really? It precludes other apostles ministering to gentiles? There’s no scriptural evidence for this.

“Peter’s commission was to the circumcised not to the Gentiles.”

Of which Rome had both. Hence the letter of Paul which speaks of Jews and Gentiles.

“It was Paul who was commissioned to be the apostle to the Roman Gentiles.”

Not scripture, sadly.

“we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision”

Again, Jews in Rome were a big part of the congregation there. Nothing here is said of Rome.

“Paul established the church in Rome.”

Not scripture.

“I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established”

Not what he’s saying here at all. He’s writing to the church already there. Otherwise he’d not be writing to it if it didn’t exist.

“No one had established a church there before him.”

Not scripture again, sadly.

“Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man’s foundation”

Yet he travelled with Barnabas. So he clearly didn’t have a problem with collaboration between not just the apostles either. Again, you’re reading into things that are not there.

“Would you argue not only that Peter would go against his commission to the Jews but that Paul lied and actually went into the church in Rome”

Did he preach to the Church in Rome prior to his eventual arrest and execution?


90 posted on 06/13/2013 2:23:37 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: JCBreckenridge

“There’s only one there. Dr. E. Mixing scripture with not scripture is generally frowned upon unless you’re protestant.”


LOL, yeah, because we know it confuses the heck out of people who aren’t even familiar with the scripture.

And I am not Dr. E.


91 posted on 06/13/2013 2:29:16 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: CynicalBear
"PETER is NOWHERE called the Apostle to the Gentiles"

Acts 10 and 15:7

Peace be to you

92 posted on 06/13/2013 2:32:26 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
>> Those who are not are not to recieve because they are at present, divided from the body.<<

ROFL! Yeah, we have all witnessed how that works out with the RCC. Hypocrites all.

93 posted on 06/13/2013 2:36:11 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Whatever you say, Dr. E

It’s generally frowned upon because it’s elevating your own words to the same level as scripture.


94 posted on 06/13/2013 2:36:17 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: CynicalBear

That’s how it works CB.

I’m not quite sure how a professed protestant would have anything to say about how the Catholic church runs itself.


95 posted on 06/13/2013 2:38:00 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: Wuli
>>you are trying to argue the logic of scripture against the rationale of institutional “tradition”<<

Yep! I know. And in all likelihood they will only entrench themselves further in the error. I do however get notes from time to time from those who lurk and read thanking us for exposing their errors.

96 posted on 06/13/2013 2:41:47 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: JCBreckenridge
>>This is an even worse one. Really? It precludes other apostles ministering to gentiles?<<

Peter’s commission by Christ was specifically to the Jews. Paul’s was specifically to the Gentiles. Paul established the church in Rome. You can deny what scripture says all you want but it’s plainly stated.

"And when James, Cephas [Peter], and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace [i.e., the gift or office] that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision" (Gal. 2:9).

II Timothy 1:11 "Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles."

>>Did he preach to the Church in Rome prior to his eventual arrest and execution?<<

Show from scripture where he did or that he was ever in Rome.

97 posted on 06/13/2013 2:50:36 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: JCBreckenridge
>>I’m not quite sure how a professed protestant would have anything to say about how the Catholic church runs itself.<<

You mean other than it’s all online and can be compared to scripture?

98 posted on 06/13/2013 3:00:24 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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The Apostles and the Priesthood ~ Part 4 [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]

The Apostles and the Priesthood ~ Part 3 [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
The Apostles and the Priesthood ~ Part 2 [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
The Apostles and the Priesthood ~ Part I [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
The Twelve Apostles of the Catholic Church: St. Thomas [Catholic Caucus]
The Twelve Apostles of the Catholic Church: St. Simon [Catholic Caucus]
The Twelve Apostles of the Catholic Church: St. Matthew [Catholic Caucus]
The Twelve Apostles of the Catholic Church: St. James [Catholic Caucus]
The Twelve Apostles of the Catholic Church: St. John [Catholic Caucus]
The Twelve Apostles of the Catholic Church: St. Andrew [Catholic Caucus]
The Twelve Apostles of the Catholic Church: St. Peter [Catholic Caucus]

99 posted on 06/13/2013 5:58:18 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Why do Catholics always talk about the Early Church Fathers (Apostolic Fathers)?[Ecumenical]
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100 posted on 06/13/2013 6:03:41 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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