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Book deals with that ‘Mormon Taboo’ … the cross
Ogden Standard-Examiner ^ | June 19, 2013 | Doug Gibson

Posted on 06/21/2013 4:31:51 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: svcw
I think you are exactly right. Illiterate people are and were very much instructed by the message found in paintings, icons, stained glass and the like. Cathedrals are huge catechisms.

But it is not confined to the illiterate. All of us respond to beautiful things in a way that is quite different from the way we respond to a text or a verbal proposition. That's why so many FReepers use pictures in addition to words. And in a grander way, that's why Michelangelo's "Creation of Adam" has fascinated millions, maybe hundreds of millions of people who otherwise would not be much interested in a bare text that says "God created man."

I am a RCIA teacher, and I have long said that one weakness of our (parish) RCIA program is "Too much Prose, not enough Poetry."

I love the True. I love the Good. And we shouldn't ever neglect or short-change those who are most moved by the Beautiful.

The Sacred Scriptures speak much of the Glory of God. And Glory is not just a five-letter word. It is an encounter will brilliance and splendor that blows your mind.

41 posted on 06/21/2013 9:12:25 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing." - 1 Cor. 13:2)
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To: Elsie
Make a serious tithe here my brother.


42 posted on 06/21/2013 9:14:04 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: svcw

“Encounter with”. Typo.


43 posted on 06/21/2013 9:17:04 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (adfgh)
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To: RobbyS; Elsie
Our religious symbol Highway 89 Mile Marker 83-84 Mount Carmel, UT


44 posted on 06/21/2013 9:20:26 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: greyfoxx39

Stop making sense! Teehee


45 posted on 06/21/2013 9:32:01 AM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Elsie; All
I’m not familiar with that ring. What’s the symbol about? Ase they letters — a little oddly shaped -— like “CPT”?

It's a Mormon ring ... the letters are CTR -- and stand for "Choose the Right" -- a Mormon hymn title.

It's become a sort of "abstinence" ring for Mormons...but goes beyond that.

The writer of that Lds hymn has written a lot of Lds' most popular Sunday School hymns...so it became an obvious choice in the Mormon parental generation to pass on a message to the next generation.

46 posted on 06/21/2013 10:07:08 AM PDT by Colofornian (West went South)
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To: Elsie

Looks like the Mormons won’t be advertising that Benji Schwimmer is a Mormon anymore.


47 posted on 06/21/2013 10:08:21 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: svcw

Yes, but you have to consider how the worshippers looked upon it. Naive worshippers would treat the thing as a god or a manifestation of a god. ; educated persons took a more abstract view.


48 posted on 06/21/2013 10:54:38 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Mrs. Don-o

After Vatican II, the iconoclasts came out in full force. So we got flat prose, childish music and bad modern art. Revolutionaries tend to be puritans. The New England Fathers frowned on poetry, except the psalms, and banished chant for cacaphony. Virginians who traveled north remarked on the singing in congregational churches where everyone sang the words as they pleased as that was not pleasing to the musical ear.


49 posted on 06/21/2013 11:02:59 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: CelticIrish

Thanks - I sometimes wear a cross or even a T-shirt with religious symbolism. It sounds like you have your head on straight and understand the intent of my earlier post- I don’t think there’s anything wrong with symbols, but they are not holy in themselves. Burn a Bible and you wasted a good book - the book is not holy in and of itself, it is the Word that it carries that is holy and that does not get destroyed or even lessened if an individual book is destroyed.


50 posted on 06/21/2013 11:22:16 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Elsie

When a person promises damnation, I take it for what it’s worth. I don’t support the Mormon religion any more than I support any religion. ALL religions have been formed by men and many have rites/rituals/requirements that are either not in the Bible, or may be mentioned in the Bible but have been twisted to suit men. Christianity is a movement/state of being, not a religion.


51 posted on 06/21/2013 11:26:34 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Colofornian

You misinterpreted my meaning and the reason for my questions. I find nothing wrong with symbolism and use it myself. I find it wrong or amiss when the symbol becomes as holy as what it symbolizes.


52 posted on 06/21/2013 11:28:14 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb; Elsie

And there you have it.
All these years I really thought Christianity was about Jesus Christ and here is “just a movement and/or state of mind”.


53 posted on 06/21/2013 11:41:19 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: svcw
Although I am not Catholic, I know none that worship Mary’s image, revering is not worship.

Wink, wink...

54 posted on 06/21/2013 11:50:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: svcw
One of my mormon uncles a former bishop, told me that mormons abandoned the cross because they didn’t want people to think they were Christians.

It appears like they've reached their goal!

55 posted on 06/21/2013 11:51:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Choose
The
Right




I spotted the above in a Wal-Mart® parking lot in Tooele, Utah a couple of years ago...

56 posted on 06/21/2013 12:00:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Ase they letters — a little oddly shaped -— like “CPT”?

Look at it a while and you'll see the 'R' changes to a 'P'.

Choose the Prophet




In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)     http://www.lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng

57 posted on 06/21/2013 12:02:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger

Can I do it cheerfully?


58 posted on 06/21/2013 12:04:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger

And my wife asks the silly question:

“Where do you want to go on vacation THIS time?”


59 posted on 06/21/2013 12:05:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SeaHawkFan

SURE they will!

Mormonism is OPEN to HOMO’s, just as long as they pay their tithe.

http://www.out.com/news-commentary/2012/06/18/benji-schwimmer-naked-truth-sytycd-gay-mormon-sexuality


60 posted on 06/21/2013 12:09:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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