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The Bittersweet Victory: Why Gay Marriage Still Isn't Marriage (the real end game defined)
Time ^ | 6/26/2011 (yes, 2011) | Howard Chua-Eoan

Posted on 06/26/2013 3:08:36 PM PDT by markomalley

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But in one very important way, gay marriage will not quite be marriage even in New York, even 30 days from now when the law goes into effect. That is because the psycho-sexual-financial-commercial-legal dramas that entangle the domestic lives of straight people often have another component: religion. And religious institutions have an exemption in the new law over accommodating gay people. It was key to the passage of the legislation.

Marriage without a church or temple wedding isn't the real thing. Why can some people have all the bells and whistles in the church of their choice but not me? Of course, there have been and will be congregations and churches that allow gay men and lesbians to be married in their midst and to bless those unions, recognizing that God loves them just as much as Governor Andrew Cuomo does. But some rich and influential religious institutions [NB: read this as the Catholic Church] are not only free to continue to reject gay men and women as equal beneficiaries of all aspects of faith but will now also rally their congregants to reject politicians who are willing to abide with this extension of secular civil rights — no matter how much acceptance there is of same-sex marriage elsewhere, no matter how many wedding announcements appear in the New York Times.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; obamanation; ssm
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Dump the hijacked word “Marriage” and start calling it Holy Matrimony.


21 posted on 06/26/2013 3:37:42 PM PDT by Klemper
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To: brent13a

This explains the dirty little secret, Gays are anything BUT gay (as in the old definition of gay).


22 posted on 06/26/2013 3:44:21 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: SueRae

The militant gays are never brave enough to push around the Muslims. They only go after those they know won’t chop their heads off.

The like to complain about living in self described Christian nations yet I don’t see them running to any of the alternatives. It’s almost as if living here isn’t so bad for them or something.

Of course you’ll never hear them say that.


23 posted on 06/26/2013 3:45:16 PM PDT by PlanToDisappear
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To: markomalley
When I and my Immortal Beloved marry the state of NY will have no part in the process. None. Zip. Zilch. Nada. No blood test, no license NOTHING.
24 posted on 06/26/2013 3:45:49 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: markomalley

This is why I thought DOMA was a bad idea to begin with. WE gave the state the ability to claim that *they* have the power to say who is and is not married, not the Church.

The state will use that supposed power to destroy the Church and its SOLE authority to administer this sacrament. Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s. This isn’t one of those things. Whether or not it was wise to ask the state to protect a sacrament is no longer at issue.

I’m Eastern Orthodox. We have been through this before and are going through it all over the middle east. I’ll bet that in 10 years our churches will be stolen, fake bishops installed and we’ll be hauled into court for “hate” crimes.

I am a Christian and a redleg. I am not afraid.


25 posted on 06/26/2013 3:48:15 PM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: marron; markomalley

I think that is the least of their worries.

There is enough “Churches” of all denominations more than willing to let them walk up to their alter.

Our lay preacher, a fiesty older woman, has all but said “That will be a cold day in......................”


26 posted on 06/26/2013 3:50:46 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Klemper
Definition of HOLY

1: exalted or worthy of complete devotion as one perfect in goodness and righteousness

2: divine

3: devoted entirely to the deity or the work of the deity

4a : having a divine quality b : venerated as or as if sacred

5—used as an intensive ; often used in combination as a mild oath

Marriage between Man and Woman is holy

Marriage between two men or two women is not

27 posted on 06/26/2013 3:53:18 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: paudio
They don’t really need a ‘mosque’ to get people married. Just a learned Muslim to officiate the man’s words to wed the ‘wife’, witnesses, and some kind of dowry would be enough for Islamic wedding.

Don't they need a few full auto AK-47s to fire in the air?

28 posted on 06/26/2013 3:56:26 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: marron

The end game is concentration camps and an underground church. About fifteen years after amnesty passes.


29 posted on 06/26/2013 3:59:18 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: brent13a

Here’s hoping the future brings more successful suicide attempts.


30 posted on 06/26/2013 4:02:06 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: markomalley

They can call it whatever they want, it doesn’t make it so.


31 posted on 06/26/2013 4:02:40 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Roses0508
"normal"

The fact is homosexuals will never be seen as normal...because they're not normal. By definition they're abnormal. Do I think homosexuals are evil? No. But they're products of screwed up hormones in the womb according to latest research. If researchers come up with a solution to that problem, there will be no more homosexuals. Hopefully, that date will not be too far away.

32 posted on 06/26/2013 4:02:53 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: SueRae
Let me know which mosque will be first to perform a gay marriage ceremony.

The Mosques are looking forward to their polygamy marriages, something that Mormons will rediscover in time.

33 posted on 06/26/2013 4:03:43 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: PeteB570
I think that is the least of their worries.

There is enough “Churches” of all denominations more than willing to let them walk up to their alter.

Pete,

That is a very naive view. The sodomites will not be happy satisfied until they have totally co-opted the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. And if they are unable to sodomize Her, their goal will be to kill Her...and that, only after much time on the rack. Once dead, the Sodomites will seek to repurpose churches as bathhouses...

Don't fool yourself.


34 posted on 06/26/2013 4:05:53 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

I will never go to a Church that performs gay weddings.
I will never attend a gay wedding, or reception.

When my Priest is ordered to marry gays he should refuse and if necessary go underground and practice real religion the real way.

The Government can take the Church and turn it into a Bathhouse if they want , it will no longer be a place of God.


35 posted on 06/26/2013 4:07:46 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kaslin

Exactly!


36 posted on 06/26/2013 4:09:27 PM PDT by Klemper
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To: dfwgator

Theirs is just a sodomy license to me. Unfortunately it allows them to have families where they can adopt and rape their same sex children and turn them into future homos.

I’ll never recognize any gay marriages.


37 posted on 06/26/2013 4:10:55 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin

And in addition, the word “HOLY” will repel those who do not believe in God. That is, until the word HOLY is hijacked. Look ahead for the next stop on the Expressway.


38 posted on 06/26/2013 4:12:41 PM PDT by Klemper
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To: markomalley

Why do you think I have a naive view of the situation?

I’d say it is a fact.

There are plenty of “churches” in this country that will welcome them with open arms.

Our’s is not one of them.


39 posted on 06/26/2013 4:15:58 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: markomalley

The end game...


40 posted on 06/26/2013 4:17:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He will come on that Day to judge the living and the dead, and the world by fire.")
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