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Leave the Church of Nice
ChurchMilitantTV ^ | 7-9-13 | Michael Voris

Posted on 07/10/2013 3:17:33 AM PDT by mlizzy

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To: JPX2011
This is from the Philippine church but a good display of at least some dress code basics:


21 posted on 07/10/2013 4:44:14 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Exactly! We’re not asking for the moon and the stars here. Last thing I need is to attempt to be in communion with God in the Holy Eucharist and be distracted by some hottie dressed inappropriately a few pews over.


22 posted on 07/10/2013 4:52:34 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011

The only thing I disagree with on the poster is the T Shirt for men. I have seen some guys wearing Megadeath, Black Sabbath, and other such demonic pictures and words that where completely unacceptable. In fact, it would have been better for them to attend Mass shirtless, than to bring such messages and visuals before the Body and Blood of our Savior!


23 posted on 07/10/2013 4:54:57 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: TexGrill

My 89 year old aunt says that back in the day there were only Catholics: not liberal Catholics or conservative Catholics but just Catholics. The cafeteria style came into vogue in the 1960’s.


24 posted on 07/10/2013 4:55:34 AM PDT by STJPII
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To: mlizzy

Being a Protestant (Pentecostal), I of course disagree with his “heresy” remark, but the rest of the article is spot on.

In all the world we see the liberal (Church of nice) churches dying. Why practice a faith that is no faith at all? If Christianity is merely being nice but then going and fulfilling the lusts of the flesh, and enabling others to do so, then why bother with it. I can be nice and have sex without going to church or reading the bible.

Real churches, and real faith, demand something of us. There is a cost to count and a price to pay. But we are far better off paying that price. We are happier, healthier, live longer more fulfilled lives and get to go to heaven when we die. Any way you count it, it’s really quite a bargain.

This is also why islam is growing in many parts of the world. It demands a certain discipline from it’s adherents. A discipline that is lacking in much of the Christian world (Europe for example) and that people are desperately hungry for.

Every child longs for discipline (boundaries) from his parents. When that discipline does not exist he will act out until the parents respond and enforce discipline. We never lose this need for boundaries. Being totally unrestrained is a very scary feeling. If no one will restrain our actions then no one really cares about us.

And so we long for the discipline that true faith brings into our lives. But the liberals have taken over much of the church (Episcopalians for example) and now preach that faggotry is OK even if God says it’s not (again as an example).

When our churches get back to real faith, they grow.


25 posted on 07/10/2013 5:32:48 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: TexGrill

We are all called to be saints. Nobody gets less help from the Holy Spirit than he needs to become one. That doesn’t mean we all succeed, but we should all be trying.

Surely one wants to draw closer and closer to the Lord? The alternative—just doing the minimum, continuing in what we know to be habitual sin, and letting ourselves off the moral hook for it by saying, “Oh, well, we can’t all be saints”—results in growing estrangement from God. What a terrifying prospect that is!


27 posted on 07/10/2013 5:36:03 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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To: mlizzy; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ...
If you go to a parish replete with altar girls, protestant hymns,

God forbid that some Catholic church might sing a PROTESTANT hymn, whatever that is.

The horror of it all. It's a sure sign a Catholics church has hit rock bottom. /s

28 posted on 07/10/2013 5:57:14 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: PapaBear3625
“Church of Nice” is not limited to Catholic parishes. There are plenty of Protestant churches and Jewish synagogues that are more about social issues than about God.

I was thinking the same thing.

29 posted on 07/10/2013 5:58:55 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Alex Murphy

ROTFLOL! Appreciate the laugh Alex.


30 posted on 07/10/2013 6:03:33 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Alas Babylon!

People shouldn’t have to be told how to dress appropriately for church or out in public, but sadly, I’ve seen too many women dress like hookers for church.


31 posted on 07/10/2013 6:03:36 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

“If you go to a parish replete with altar girls, protestant hymns,
God forbid that some Catholic church might sing a PROTESTANT hymn, whatever that is.

The horror of it all. It’s a sure sign a Catholics church has hit rock bottom. /s”

The Catholic Church has a 1500-year tradition of liturgical music BEFORE the Reformation, and another 500 years of Catholic liturgical music since.

While many hymns written by and for non-Catholic christians are quite beautiful and sacred, they are even now not sanctioned for use during Mass in most Catholic dioceses, and were definitely not allowed prior to Vatican II.

It may not make sense to you, but we have our rules.


32 posted on 07/10/2013 6:08:16 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: JPX2011
Last thing I need is to attempt to be in communion with God in the Holy Eucharist and be distracted by some hottie dressed inappropriately a few pews over.

Are you distracted by her being a "hottie", or by how she dressed?

"Joe, why do you keep going back into the Confessional? Mass started twenty minutes ago!"

33 posted on 07/10/2013 6:12:06 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("...Someone handed the keys to the Forum to the OPC and its sympathizers...")
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To: mlizzy

Huh????

34 posted on 07/10/2013 6:15:28 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mlizzy

A lot of pastors might get this in their email today!

Wow!


35 posted on 07/10/2013 6:43:13 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: paterfamilias; mlizzy

Remember that we have a new Archbishop out here in Oregon who has a lot of control over OCP.

I’m looking for many of those protesting hymns to turn to Gregorian chant.


36 posted on 07/10/2013 6:45:21 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: metmom

“Hello everyone and welcome to The Vortex where lies and falsehoods are trapped and exposed. I’m Michael Voris.”

Well, that’s wonderful but your spiel is clap-trap.


37 posted on 07/10/2013 6:47:15 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Makana

That’s how they lose their tax-exempt status.

That is never done in the Catholic Church as far as I know.

Issues are addressed, but never individual candidates.


38 posted on 07/10/2013 6:51:31 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: epluribus_2
Agree with a lot of this but just don’t see the value in suit/tie white glove and bonnet dress up for a real catholic mass. For most of the church’s existence folks came in from the fields when the bells rang in their robes or only clothes they had. No swim suits please but penguin outfits at church are a weird american idea. I like st. Francis’ view more than this guy.
While I would imagine Michael Voris looks very nice when going to Mass himself, I didn't get the idea he felt parishioners should dress suit/tie white glove, however, the more one attends respectful Masses, the more IMO they want to dress the same [respectfully]. And your comment about people coming in from the fields reminds me of our wedding.

My husband's friend (who grew to be a good friend of mine too) was a "pitiful" poor, crippled, ex-con (who had few friends save Mary and Jesus, and he spoke of them profusely), who walked over a mile in the blistering heat (hobbling using his cane) to attend our wedding. He came in sweating a lot, wearing his usual outfit, "raggedy-a**ed" blue jeans and "dago-t," and collapsed in the front pew (it was the closest to the door he entered) and sat along with the bridesmaids. When the pictures came back from the wedding, there were NO pictures of Sam. I was a bit heartbroken (but the image is forever etched in my mind); the photographer explained that he avoided taking his picture because he thought he was just some bum.
39 posted on 07/10/2013 8:01:06 AM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: metmom
I’ve seen too many women dress like hookers for church.

Truthfully, I wonder if many of them know any other way. Consider the use of pantyhose or stockings--their use is not "red carpet." That is, the Hollywood starlets don't wear hose. Unfortunately, that's where many women get their fashion sense.

40 posted on 07/10/2013 8:09:42 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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