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1 posted on 07/22/2013 2:45:09 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 07/22/2013 2:45:39 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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>> Does the Catholic Church Teach “Doctrines of Demons?” <<

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Yes!

Most assuredly so.

Particularly the mass, which is straight out of the Lake that burns.


3 posted on 07/22/2013 2:51:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: NYer

Baptists do


7 posted on 07/22/2013 3:05:09 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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9 posted on 07/22/2013 3:06:32 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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All one needs to do is look at the pagan practices, vestments, and beliefs incorporated into the RCC to understand they teach the doctrines of demons.


12 posted on 07/22/2013 3:14:20 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: NYer
Does the Catholic Church Teach “Doctrines of Demons?

I don't know but I'm not sure why popes have personal exorcist! If you are truly filled with the Holy Spirit you cannot be possessed by a demon and have no need for a exorcist.
17 posted on 07/22/2013 3:28:30 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian *born again believer in Jesus Christ* Black Man!)
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To: NYer

You know, when you post articles with provocative questions, expect to get shot at, especially when it elicits an answer.


19 posted on 07/22/2013 3:30:32 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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Wow! The attacks here seem to be coming from demons. Scary.


23 posted on 07/22/2013 3:57:50 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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Ah, Catholic Answers . . . the folks who say Catholics are forbidden to interpret the first eleven chapters of Genesis as literal history.

The Catholic Church lets Indians keep their totem poles, but rednecks can't keep their belief in Genesis 1-11. Now ain't that sumpin'?

35 posted on 07/22/2013 4:29:24 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (What would Yehoshu`a [Bin Nun] do?)
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To: NYer
2. St. Paul was obviously not condemning the Church making abstinence from certain foods mandatory, because the Council of Jerusalem, of which St. Paul was a key participant in A.D. 49, did just that in declaring concerning Gentile converts:

As is too often the case, this Catholic author is full of deception...Paul DID NOT forbid the eating of certain foods...

ct 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Paul forbade the eating of all foods, which were offered as a sacrifice to idols and gods...And Paul forbade the eating of blood...That is it...To claim that Paul forbade certain foods for the Christian believer is deception...

Evidently, St. Paul was writing against what might be termed the founding fathers of the Gnostic movement that split away from the Church in the first century and would last over 1,000 years, forming many different sects and taking many different forms.

That is exactly true...But those Gnostics are still with us in the 2nd Millennium after the Crucifixion...And how do we identify those Gnostics???

Just as Paul warned; those who refuse to let their clergy get married, those who have rules against eating certain foods, and those who serve BLOOD to eat...

Can we identify that religion??? Anyone???

45 posted on 07/22/2013 4:58:32 PM PDT by Iscool
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No, of course not only an _______ would think that.


46 posted on 07/22/2013 5:05:44 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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Does the RCC teach the doctrines of demons? Well, you be the judge:

From the Secret of the Rosary, endorsed by Pope Benedict:

“One day the King fell seriously ill and when he was given up for dead he found himself, in a vision, before the judgement seat of Our Lord. Many devils were there accusing him of all the sins he had committed and Our Lord as Sovereign Judge was just about to condemn him to hell when Our Lady appeared to intercede for him. She called for a pair of scales and had his sins placed in one of the balances whereas she put the rosary that he had always worn on the other scale, together with all the Rosaries that had been said because of his example. It was found that the Rosaries weighed more than his sins.

Looking at him with great kindness Our Lady said: “As a reward for this little honor that you paid me in wearing my Rosary, I have obtained a great grace for you from my Son. Your life will be spared for a few more years. See that you spend these years wisely, and do penance.”

When the King regained consciousness he cried out: “Blessed be the Rosary of the Most Holy Virgin Mary, by which I have been delivered from eternal damnation!”

After he had recovered his health he spent the rest of his life in spreading devotion to the Holy Rosary and said it faithfully every day.

People who love the Blessed Virgin out to follow the example of King Alphonsus and that of the saints whom I have mentioned so that they too may win other souls for the Confraternity of the Holy Rosary. They will then receive great graces on earth and eternal life later on. “They that explain me shall have life everlasting life.” [1] Ecclus. 24:31”

Another story on how saying rosaries can earn you salvation:

“Later on, when she was at prayer she fell into ecstasy and had a vision of her soul appearing before the Supreme Judge. Saint Michael put all her penances and to her prayers on one side of the scale and all her sins and imperfections on the other. The tray of her good works were greatly outweighed by that of her sins and imperfections.

Filled with alarm, she cried out for mercy, imploring the help of the Blessed Virgin, her gracious advocate, who took the one and only Rosary she had said for her penance and dropped it on the tray of her good works. This one Rosary was so heavy that it weighed more than all her sins as well as her good works. Our Lady then reproved her for having refused to follow the counsel of her servant Dominic and for not saying the Rosary every day.

As soon as she came to herself she rushed and threw herself at the feet of Saint Dominic and told him all that had happened, begged his forgiveness and promised to say the Rosary faithfully every day. By this means she rose to Christian perfection and finally to the glory of everlasting life.”

http://www.rosary-center.org/secret.htm

Popes on the “sure and most efficacious means” for help from heaven:

“We constantly seek for help from Heaven - the sole means of effecting anything - that our labours and our care may obtain their wished for object. We deem that there could be no surer and more efficacious means to this end than by religion and piety to obtain the favour of the great Virgin Mary, the Mother of God, the guardian of our peace and the minister to us of heavenly grace, who is placed on the highest summit of power and glory in Heaven, in order that she may bestow the help of her patronage on men who through so many labours and dangers are striving to reach that eternal city. Now that the anniversary, therefore, of manifold and exceedingly great favours obtained by a Christian people through the devotion of the Rosary is at hand, We desire that that same devotion should be offered by the whole Catholic world with the greatest earnestness to the Blessed Virgin, that by her intercession her Divine Son may be appeased and softened in the evils which afflict us. And therefore We determined, Venerable Brethren, to despatch to you these letters in order that, informed of Our designs, your authority and zeal might excite the piety of your people to conform themselves to them.” (ENCYCLICAL OF POPE LEO XIII ON DEVOTION OF THE ROSARY)
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_01091883_supremi-apostolatus-officio_en.html

A decree to perform them:

“We decree and order that in the whole Catholic world, during this year, the devotion of the Rosary shall be solemnly celebrated by special and splendid services. From the first day of next October, therefore, until the second day of the November following, in every parish and, if the ecclesiastical authority deem it opportune and of use, in every chapel dedicated to the Blessed Virgin - let five decades of the Rosary be recited with the addition of the Litany of Loreto.” (SUPREMI APOSTOLATUS OFFICIO, ENCYCLICAL OF POPE LEO XIII ON DEVOTION OF THE ROSARY)

The importance of the Rosary to a Pope:

“With these words, dear brothers and sisters, I set the first year of my Pontificate within the daily rhythm of the Rosary. Today, as I begin the twenty-fifth year of my service as the Successor of Peter, I wish to do the same. How many graces have I received in these years from the Blessed Virgin through the Rosary: Magnificat anima mea Dominum! I wish to lift up my thanks to the Lord in the words of his Most Holy Mother, under whose protection I have placed my Petrine ministry: Totus Tuus!” (ROSARIUM VIRGINIS MARIAE OF THE SUPREME PONTIFF JOHN PAUL II)

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_letters/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_20021016_rosarium-virginis-mariae_en.html

I don’t know about you, but a religion that depicts our mediator between God and man as a foolish Judge inclined to believe the accusations of Demons, only to be thwarted by the mediation of Mary who pleads... not the blood of Christ, but the prayers of Rosaries... sounds pretty Demonic to me.


62 posted on 07/22/2013 5:37:36 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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Don’t you think this embarrassing mud slinging contest has gone far enough?


120 posted on 07/22/2013 7:26:27 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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It would be nice if, in the name of Jesus Christ, Christians could come together on what - or I should say Who - they have in common. We have so much more to do battle against than one another!!! What will it take?


173 posted on 07/22/2013 8:30:01 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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Over a year since I have posted anything to a thread. Past experience was interesting. So here I go back into the “marketplace”.

At least 20,000 plus Protestant denominations.

1. All claim that they do not follow “man made” teachings, only the Bible.
2. Within some Protestant denominations, King James Bible versus Revised King James Bible, which is the true Bible.
3. Majority of Protestant denominations, abortion is evil, however artificial contraception is OK.
4. Some Protestant denominations allow women and homosexuals as pastors, Bishops, etc. (I know some of you will state, the Catholic Church already allows homosexuals as priest. Save that for another thread.)
5. All state that the Roman Catholic Church is in “error”.

Now, my question. Which of the 20,000 Protestant denominations is 100% correct? Before some of you rant that I am trolling for personal information. All I want is a simple answer, i.e., Baptist, Assembly of God, Methodist.

I will know that some of you will state, “Gods Church!!!”, that is a non-answer. Almost as bad as, “I fellowship with my 2 friends in my family den, because there is no true Christian Church in my area.”


201 posted on 07/23/2013 12:31:39 AM PDT by common-sense-man-1776 ("Whoever does not seek the cross of Christ doesn't seek the glory of Christ." St. John of the Cross)
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Yet, the “widow” of I Timothy 5 is condemned if she remarries? In the words of Ricky Ricardo, St. Paul has some “splainin’ to do.” The answer lies in the fact that the widow in question had been “enrolled,” which was a first-century equivalent to being “consecrated.” Thus, according to St. Paul, these “enrolled” widows were not only celibate but consecrated as such.

As I have come to expect from failed Protestants such as Staples, there is a twisting of Scripture - as if Scripture matters that much to what Catholicism defines as dogma. This being "enrolled" part is a case in point. There WAS no enrollment of celibate "consecrated" widows in the church. All one needs to do is read that verse in context. Here's what it REALLY says:

    Give proper recognition to those widows who are really in need. But if a widow has children or grandchildren, these should learn first of all to put their religion into practice by caring for their own family and so repaying their parents and grandparents, for this is pleasing to God. The widow who is really in need and left all alone puts her hope in God and continues night and day to pray and to ask God for help. But the widow who lives for pleasure is dead even while she lives. Give the people these instructions, so that no one may be open to blame. Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

    No widow may be put on the list of widows unless she is over sixty, has been faithful to her husband, and is well known for her good deeds, such as bringing up children, showing hospitality, washing the feet of the Lord’s people, helping those in trouble and devoting herself to all kinds of good deeds. As for younger widows, do not put them on such a list. For when their sensual desires overcome their dedication to Christ, they want to marry. Thus they bring judgment on themselves, because they have broken their first pledge. Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also busybodies who talk nonsense, saying things they ought not to. So I counsel younger widows to marry, to have children, to manage their homes and to give the enemy no opportunity for slander. Some have in fact already turned away to follow Satan.

    If any woman who is a believer has widows in her care, she should continue to help them and not let the church be burdened with them, so that the church can help those widows who are really in need. (I Tim. 5:3-16)

This "enrollment" had to do with those women who had no outside means of support and the churches made sure they were taken care of. Young women who had been widowed were NOT put on this list because Paul encouraged them to remarry.

Another point this author misses is the threat the Christians during that time were living under by those who persecuted them. It wasn't a good time for a man to take on a wife and have a family to care for while under such dire times. This did NOT mean that such conditions were going to always be the case. Being married does not prevent a man nor a woman from serving the Lord and it is far more important to be in HIS will no matter what marital condition we are in.

The "doctrines of demons" have more to do with an accursed gospel because that is what will REALLY affect a person's eternal destiny. A gospel of faith AND works is the false Gospel Paul warned us about and the enemy of men's souls is far more interested in that than if widowed women get remarried or not.

287 posted on 07/23/2013 8:58:19 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things:

I guess the UN-'neccessary' things of Catholicism are considered to be no 'burden'.

488 posted on 07/26/2013 3:11:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things:

Re-enforcing the following...

 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.


489 posted on 07/26/2013 3:14:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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I am constantly amazed by these religion threads as posters attempt to define “Christian” by one means or another. Jesus did give a criteria by which we can be measured, a gage so to speak, that we must conform to if anything else we do is to have meaning.

Yet for all the knowledgeable and perceptive posts on these threads I can't recall seeing this criteria mentioned very often if at all.

Rather odd for threads on religion, particularly the Christian religion.

562 posted on 07/28/2013 8:41:53 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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