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10 Quotes That Prove The Pope Is A Liberal
National Catholic Register ^ | August 05, 2013 | Pat Archbold

Posted on 08/05/2013 7:23:37 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

The Pope is soft on Islam.

"It is true that the Muslim world is not totally mistaken when it reproaches the West of Christian tradition of moral decadence and the manipulation of human life."

Encourages Homosexuality.

"It is deplorable that homosexual persons have been and are the object of violent malice in speech or in action. Such treatment deserves condemnation from the church's pastors wherever it occurs."

[SNIP]

He is overtly humble and does not embrace his office:

"The authority of the pope is not unlimited;"

"The cardinals have elected me, a simple and humble worker in the Lord's vineyard. The fact that the Lord can work and act even with insufficient means consoles me, and above all I entrust myself to your prayers."

He makes a point of extolling women and the Church.

“It is theologically and anthropologically important for woman to be at the center of Christianity. Through Mary, and the other holy women, the feminine element stands at the heart of the Christian religion.”

On those neo-pelagians that think they can earn their way to heaven through piety instead of charity:

“If in my life I fail completely to heed others, solely out of a desire to be 'devout' and to perform my 'religious duties', then my relationship with God will also grow arid. It becomes merely 'proper', but loveless.”

He cares about the environment:

“Listen to the voice of the earth...”

He even hates Capitalism:

"the prevalence of a selfish and individualistic mindset which also finds expression in an unregulated capitalism"

(Excerpt) Read more at ncregister.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; liberal; pope; popebenedict; popefrancis; vatican
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To: JCBreckenridge
Am I inaccurate?

Is the sky blue?

41 posted on 08/05/2013 9:25:23 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Thus, my opponent's argument falls.")
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To: Alex Murphy

Stanne believes that you should not attribute statements made by others to stanne who did not say this


42 posted on 08/05/2013 9:27:42 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Alex Murphy

Pick and choose all you want

Thatt’s what the lib press does all the time

Propaganda


44 posted on 08/05/2013 9:29:21 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
Stanne believes that you should not attribute statements made by others to stanne who did not say this

Which post/statement did I attribute to you incorrectly?

45 posted on 08/05/2013 9:30:16 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Thus, my opponent's argument falls.")
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To: Alex Murphy

Use some or all of the negative quotes just to inject some honesty


46 posted on 08/05/2013 9:32:11 AM PDT by stanne
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To: JCBreckenridge
Do you believe the Pope serves Satan?

Too late for the question - you've already asserted it as the truth, and I'm now calling you on it. I expect you to take responsibility for avoiding any appearance of malice, gossip or slander by backing your statement up, by providing the quote and where/when that I've said it.

47 posted on 08/05/2013 9:35:44 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Thus, my opponent's argument falls.")
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To: Alex Murphy

Check the post i responded to, 38

I HAVE had enough of this particular typical grammar school level yet illogical thread

Take up our argument against the Church with the clergy

If you have any courage or maturity or willingness to tackle whatever obstacles stand in your way to reuniting with your faith if that’s the case

But this post was a cheap shot at Pope Francis intent on turning those who would not read it

Don’t waste my time

I teach ninth g English and I can tell BS from a mile away


48 posted on 08/05/2013 9:39:03 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Alex Murphy
From a DW article:

"Rebellion and revolution - that's nothing new for Latin America: In the 1960s and 70s, Latin American liberation theologians such as Gustavo Gutierrez and Oscar Romero inspired clergymen and believers all over the world. One of them was Ludwig Gerhard Müller, who now heads the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith."

"Brazilian theologian Leonardo Boff firmly believes Latin America will trigger future reforms that are going to change the Catholic Church. "Our church doesn't reflect the European mother church anymore; it has its own origins, its own traditions, heroes, martyrs, prophets and personas such as the famous former bishop of Recife, Dom Helder Camara, or our very own saint, Oscar Romero," Boff said. "These churches will breathe new life into Christianity.""

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3047023/posts

Gerhard Ludwig Müller - Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

"On 2 July 2012 Bishop Müller was appointed prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith by Pope Benedict XVI. At the same time he was appointed Archbishop ad personam. As a result of his new role his is also ex officio president of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, the International Theological Commission, and the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei."

"As a personal friend of Pope Benedict XVI, he has been charged with preparing the publication of the “Opera Omnia”: a series of books that will collect, in a single edition, all Benedict's writings.[5] Müller himself has was written more than 400 works on dogmatic theology, ecumenism, revelation, hermeneutics, the priesthood and the diaconate."

"Müller was also a pupil of Gustavo Gutiérrez, the “father” of Latin-American liberation theology, with whom he has a long and close friendship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Ludwig_M%C3%BCller

Bishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/muller/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20130124_biografia-muller_en.html

Church Revolution in Pictures - Gutiérrez and Muller
http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A479-Muller-3.htm

Gustavo Gutiérrez
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustavo_Guti%C3%A9rrez

"I remember that in high school there was a Communist professor. We had a wonderful relationship with him, he questioned us about everything and it was good for us, but he never lied to us. - Pope Francis p131 Heaven and Earth

"I read Our Word and Proposals, a publication by the Communist Party, and I loved every article ever written by Leonidas Barletta, one of their best-known members" - Pope Francis page 39 Conversations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNjUfI07s90

Leónidas Barletta
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?ref=SERP&br=ro&mkt=en-US&dl=en&lp=ES_EN&a=http%3a%2f%2fes.wikipedia.org%2fwiki%2fLe%25C3%25B3nidas_Barletta

A different perspective on Francis' "wild capitalism" and concern for the poor.

50 posted on 08/05/2013 9:44:36 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: stanne
I teach ninth g English and I can tell BS from a mile away

Based on the prevalent grammatical errors in your posts, I'd say you're in the wrong line of work.

51 posted on 08/05/2013 9:48:44 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Thus, my opponent's argument falls.")
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To: Alex Murphy

No. I just don’t take the time on the anticatholic forum to proofread my arguments. Better things to do

I’ sure my errors prevail in typos and not grammar

I am in the right line of work.

I can show otherwise distracted and argumentive people (kids) how to follow classic characters’ behaviors from one step to the next and following logical steps

From Iago to Tom Sawyer to Penelope and to Ahab

And I can smell intent and effort in an argument, an essay and a test answer to a personal schooze to the tee

And your arguments are not up to the caliber of the high schoolers I serve

They are boring and transparent


52 posted on 08/05/2013 10:02:08 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
I’ sure my errors prevail in typos and not grammar I am in the right line of work....And your arguments are not up to the caliber of the high schoolers I serve They are boring and transparent

You may deduct twenty-five points from your answer, for the use of a dangling participle/misplaced modifier. And don't let your students know that you find them boring and transparent.

53 posted on 08/05/2013 10:10:29 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Thus, my opponent's argument falls.")
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To: JCBreckenridge
Do you believe the Pope serves Satan and not God?

Too late for the question - you've already asserted it as the truth, and I'm now calling you on it. I expect you to take responsibility for avoiding any appearance of malice, gossip or slander by backing your statement up, by providing the quote and where/when that I've said it.

54 posted on 08/05/2013 10:15:11 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Thus, my opponent's argument falls.")
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To: Alex Murphy

Oh, you certainly misread my post.

I do not ever find my students boring. And they know when I see through their efforts

No. I was comparing you to them finding you but not them boring


55 posted on 08/05/2013 10:23:21 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
Oh, you certainly misread my post.

I haven't misread your posts. I just pointed out one of many grammatical errors found therein, errors that are inexcusable under better English teachers.

56 posted on 08/05/2013 10:26:15 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Thus, my opponent's argument falls.")
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To: Alex Murphy

You might want to go to your argument and see what you can do about directing your anticatholicism in a more honest way

A priest, or other clergy member might help you vent more effectively or help you discover what the problem might be which brings you on a course to dishonestly disparage the Pope


58 posted on 08/05/2013 10:33:05 AM PDT by stanne
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
John 8:37 I know that you are the children of Abraham: but you seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
John 8:38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and you do the things that you have seen with your father.

There's no mistaking what the WORD of God says in the above verses nor is there any mistaking what the WORD of God says in the following verse.

John 19:15 But they cried out: Away with him; away with him; crucify him. Pilate saith to them: Shall I crucify your king? The chief priests answered: We have no king but Caesar.

And their descendants have been helping to install one tyrannical Caesar after another ever since.

Which is why it's hard to decide whether to laugh or to cry when you read their anti-Christ and anti-Christian jokes.

59 posted on 08/05/2013 10:36:42 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Alex Murphy; Servant of the Cross

Great article, and Archbold was actually right. People do twist the Pope’s words. All the quotes are from Pope Benedict - and not a single one is “liberal.”

These are simply the teachings of the Catholic Church, which holds out salvation to everyone and hates the sin but loves the sinner.

As for capitalism, I don’t think there’s a single person here who would support crony capitalism (state capitalism) or a situation where factory owners could do things like lock the fire exits and let their employees die because it might have cost them a few extra bucks to have the fire exits open. Pope Francis has frequently made the point that economic systems must be regulated from within, that is, by virtuous people.


60 posted on 08/05/2013 11:18:05 AM PDT by livius
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