Posted on 08/09/2013 12:22:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Huh? That would be homosexual rape. Notice that Lot seemed to think that the rape of his virgin daughters was less heinous
Anyway, the gang rape and homosexuality are NOT mutually exclusive.
As a final point: why did God send angels to "investigate"? Being omniscient He already knew. I suspect that it was to provide an example to Lot, Abraham, and future generations.
Their desire to rape the angels that came to Lot is the reason for the destruction.
There were other sinful cities, but Sodom and Gomorrah were dedicated to sodomy.
Good answer, and IMO the correct one.
RE: 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Alas how people rationalize these days. When I quote a verse like this to some supporters of gay marriage, they rationalize and say -— “But we are not lustful towards one another... we want to get married like any good christian couple do and consummate our marriage like any normal, ordinary couple....” (shaking my head in sorrow... )
Sodomites trying to anal rape the angels probably didn’t please the Lord too much. About the same thing would happen if the angels dropped into the Castro District during the Gay Pride Parade.
re: “To answer the question—Sin is sin. Whether it’s lying, or murder, or adultery, it’s all the same in the eyes of God.”
I’m not quite sure that’s true. Remember when Jesus told the disciples in Matthew 10:14-16:
“14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. 15 Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.”
Similar passages are found in Matthew 11:24 and Luke 10:12.
Also, Jesus tells us in Matthew 18:5-7:
“6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!”
It sounds like there are some sins which are worse in God’s eyes than others. I agree that all sin separates us from a Holy, totally Righteous and sinless God, and, in that sense, all sin condemns us. But, perhaps there will be greater punishment for certain sins?
There are rewards mentioned by the Apostle Paul that will be given at the Day of Judgement. Perhaps also greater punishments?
Also, in the Levitical law, not every crime received the same punishment. We don’t give the death penalty for parking tickets, so why might it be so strange that certain sins will receive greater punishment? Breaking the speed limit makes one a “lawbreaker”, just as a murderer is also a “lawbreaker”, so both are “breakers of the law. I think that’s what James is speaking of in James 2:9-11.
But, we don’t give the same punishment for murder as a speeding ticket because we all clearly understand that murder is a more heinous crime.
Not trying to argue, just thinking about the “all the same in God’s eyes”.
My new word for Frisco, inspired by this great article:
San FranSodomy.
My guess is that the angels were sent instead of God just blastig the place for two reasons: (1) give aid to Lot in a form he could understand and (2) give the people of Sodom one last chance to repent. Remember, angels can be terrifying (as in capable of instilling terror, powerful, etc., not as in “bad”) things. Angels who strike people blind would definitely seem to fit into the “terrible” category. And still the people did not repent. Or even just run away! That’s arrogance. Then, well, they got a big Almighty ZZZZOOOOTTTTTTTTTTT...
When God ZOTS you, you KNOW you’ve been ZOTTED :)
RE: Angels who strike people blind would definitely seem to fit into the “terrible” category.
An Angel slew an army of 85,000 Assyrians that was trying to attack Judah under King Hezekiah’s reign ((2 Kings 19:35).
To the title: faggotry.
I used to think that prager was a very wise and honest man. Some years ago I realized he says and does what he gets paid for. Therefore he has a price for the betrayal of principle and I lost a lot of respect for him then. Now I have NONE.
I think homosexuality and rape was part of it, but I did not see Ezekiel 16 referenced. That is a pretty racy chapter in its criticism and imagery regarding the sins of Jerusalem. Start at verse 49 and you will get an additional take on Sodom, which quite frankly, is pretty damning for the US as we speak.
Thank you.
I used to frequent political chat rooms, and the queers all used the same meme when someone brought up Sodom and Gomorrah: “They were destroyed for not showing hospitality.”
Homosexuality, including the “need” to corrupt visitors to their cities.
That’s Sodom.
As for Gomorrah, apparently they were worse - nobody even knows what Gomorrahmy is any more.
bet she was lesbian also.
Judgment had already been passed before the angels got there.
Too many door to door encyclopedia salesmen is my guess.
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