Posted on 08/17/2013 2:06:44 AM PDT by NYer
Yes, and? Your point being? Are you saying that Jesus’s rebuke of Peter meant that he was lying when he said he founded the Church on Peter?
“That’s understandable for a catholic. Too much emphasis on Mary and not on JESUS. Get to KNOW HIM and you will never be confused nor open to deception AGAIN.”
So you’re saying that Luther was wrong to mutilate the book of Daniel?
No jcb, I’m saying that even though you claim He founded the gathering on Peter, he did not. You can believe whatever you choose to believe.
Indeed, thus i stated that the later flows from the former, and indeed "The Gospel is doctrine and it is the failure of the RCC to preach The Gospel that leads so many RC's to Evangelical churches where The Gospel is preached everyday." Though this is not as widespread or in the depth it should be, or once was.
Relative few of which are in Rome, or liberal Prot churches, at least in the West.
There was no infallible indisputable decree on the canon by Rome till the year Luther died, and whether Luther believed only the Scriptures could be used in knowing God’s will is the issue, while the means by which writings are established as Scripture is another.
Is a assuredly infallible magisterium necessary for this, and does being the steward of Divine revelation, and inheritor of promises of God's presence and preservation, and having historical descent, require or render such to be that infallible interpreter to whom all must submit?
Actually, Rome has been sending the signal that the Roman Catholic Church is NOT the one true church for much much longer than that.
“It is odd that non Catholics care about the Catholic church. It is like looking into the window at our shop every day when you pass by.”
It’s more like pulling over to look at a car wreck.
You got ahold of some misinformation in my opinion.
Care to source that? Did it come from a website, a tract?
“He founded the gathering on Peter, he did not”
The Book of Matthew says he did. Are you saying the Book of Matthew lies?
“There was no infallible indisputable decree on the canon”
Then why is the canon at Trent *exactly* identical to the Vulgate? Coincidence?
Amen!
One of the signs that we are winding down and the end is coming is the falling away we are seeing. I can't help but wonder out of the dwindling numbers attending a church how many truly know and believe The Gospel.
hrist founded the Catholic Church on the apostles on Easter Day. Read your Bible. He also ordained all of the apostles as the first Bishops that day.
I see my mistake == you were responding to someone else. Please forgive me.
“The Book of Matthew says he did. Are you saying the Book of Matthew lies?”
It does not.
I did not.
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Why CHOOSE???
However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?
Luke 18:8
Revolting cat!’s One reason why people DO NOT reject the Church:
(1) Religious threads on Free Republic.
Spoken like a true heretic!
Return to the Mother Church and all will be forgiven.
(Nothing in the list seemed to address an arrogant hautiness; did it...)
Oh.. Please!!
Let ME help!!
Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
Dang!
That's too bad!
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
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