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Pope Francis: overcome temptation to be "Christians without Jesus" (Daily Mass)
Radio Vaticana ^ | 9/7/2013

Posted on 09/07/2013 5:48:38 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: ravenwolf

This is sarcasm I hope.


41 posted on 09/07/2013 9:40:32 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Biggirl
What has been going on in the Middle East the last couple of months, but in a special way the last couple of days is a reminder that regardless of what church community believers worship, we are all part of the large family tree known as the Christian faith.

You can not include those 'Christians' who do not have Jesus...

42 posted on 09/07/2013 9:41:48 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool; BipolarBob

So your god is a book. Got it.


43 posted on 09/07/2013 9:45:22 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Iscool

Give them a break. They have so many catechisms, special prayers, novenas and a semi-truckload of centuries of traditions to lug around and remembering Jesus can sort of get lost in the shuffle. We’re talking about a legalistic tradition laden religion. This stuff ain’t easy (one of them actually told me that). So they’re bearing a heavy burden and I’m not sure where remembering Jesus is on their list.


44 posted on 09/07/2013 9:45:51 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Romulus; Iscool

So your god is your church. Got it.


45 posted on 09/07/2013 9:47:06 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: BipolarBob

Uh uh. The tomb is empty.


46 posted on 09/07/2013 9:47:54 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

“what an idiot. if you are “without Jesus” you are NOT Christian”

True but the message is to those who DON’T REALIZE they are not truly Christian. People who have joined the ‘Social Club’ so they call themselves a ‘Christian’ but do not truly have or know Jesus. Like the two who came to Jesus and said “Lord Lord” and Jesus cut them off and said “Why do you call me Lord yet you don’t do what I say?”

Jesus spoke of those who would stand before Him on judgement and say “Did I not (do all these things)in YOUR name?” and Jesus said “I will tell him, depart from me you worker of iniquity I do not know you”

It’s all through the Gospels where Jesus told people that they were not his followers even know they CLAIMED and believed they were his followers (Christians).

This is a message that is good, and right. Too many think they have Jesus just because they are part of the ‘Social Club’ but the ‘Social Club’ called Christianity - and being a real follower of Jesus are quite different.


47 posted on 09/07/2013 9:49:57 AM PDT by SamTheWriter (Jesus even warned of those who THOUGHT they were His, but were NOT! Social Club vs Relationship)
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To: Romulus
So your god is a book. Got it.

Nope...But my God wrote a book and it contains the words of God...If I want to know what God says or wrote, I go to the book, just as God suggested...

48 posted on 09/07/2013 9:51:11 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Romulus

Praise Jesus. He lives.


49 posted on 09/07/2013 9:51:14 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Iscool

Those Christians DO go back to the days of Jesus and the apostles.


50 posted on 09/07/2013 9:51:52 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Iscool

The Pope is addressing those who claim the title of Christian but live without Christ. Anyone who is not filled with anti-Catholic prejudice would understand that he is condemning this.


51 posted on 09/07/2013 10:00:11 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Iscool

You forgot that we Christians also accept the teaching of the same God -inspired Holy Bible the words from Paul “one Lord, one faith, one baptism.”


52 posted on 09/07/2013 10:02:21 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

This is sarcasm I hope.


Right you are.


53 posted on 09/07/2013 10:02:52 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: BipolarBob
Mary as the demigoddess or Queen of Heaven as she is worshiped is NOT in the Bible.

Neither is she a demigoddess or worshipped in the Catholic faith. Her title as Queen of Heaven is as the queen mother of her son Jesus Christ who is king, not as a co-regent.

A true Christian would not need to resort to false witness.

54 posted on 09/07/2013 10:08:34 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: SamTheWriter
True but the message is to those who DON’T REALIZE they are not truly Christian.

That's not what your pope said to them...And your pope said nothing to let them know they are not Christians...But heh, they are Catholics so they must be Christians...They are just Christians without Jesus...

And ya, it's better to be Christians with Jesus than without him... The rule is simple: only that which brings you to Jesus is valid, and only that is valid that comes from Jesus.

“But if you aren’t able to adore Jesus, you’re missing something. A rule, a sign. The sign is: I am a good Christian, I am on the path of a good Christian if I do that which comes from Jesus and if I do that which leads me to Jesus, because he is the centre.

I realize the following is overused scripture but it is custom made for the instructions of your pope...

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Does any Catholic know the will of the Father???

55 posted on 09/07/2013 10:09:20 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: BipolarBob

Without a body? Then where is it?


56 posted on 09/07/2013 10:14:34 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Petrosius
The Pope is addressing those who claim the title of Christian but live without Christ. Anyone who is not filled with anti-Catholic prejudice would understand that he is condemning this.

Problem is, he failed to inform them that are not Christians...He did not delineate between Christians without Jesus and those with Jesus in the truth that while one is destined for heaven, the other is destined for hell...

Course that wouldn't be PC for the pope to tell some baptized Catholic Christians that they are on the road to hell...

57 posted on 09/07/2013 10:15:32 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
Course that wouldn't be PC for the pope to tell some baptized Catholic Christians that they are on the road to hell...

You really don't know the Catholic faith, do you?

58 posted on 09/07/2013 10:18:48 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
Her title as Queen of Heaven

Where in the Bible is she accorded this title? Or the other blasphemous title Catholics refer her to as "Mother of God"?
Neither is she a demigoddess or worshipped in the Catholic faith.

You pray to her do you not? We are to pray to God. We are not to replace God with anyone or anything.

59 posted on 09/07/2013 10:19:11 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Romulus

God is Spirit. You do read the Bible, don’t you?


60 posted on 09/07/2013 10:20:50 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Who needs pagans, we have Catholics.)
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