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To: RobbyS; imardmd1
>> The Gospels say “ Church. “<<

Um..No they don’t.

No such thing as the word “church” in scripture. It’s “ecclesia” which means "assembly" or "congregation”. God did not give an organization the authority to interpret scripture.

The English word “church” was derived from the Greek word “kyridakon” which wasn’t even used in the Greek during New Testament times and isn’t found anywhere in the New Testament. It didn’t even come into use until around the 16th century. There is no word in the New Testament which can be translated into our understanding of the word “church”. You can find the information in Brown, Colin. The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology. 3 vols. Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1979.

54 posted on 09/12/2013 4:59:07 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
No such thing as the word “church” in scripture. It’s “ecclesia” which means "assembly" or "congregation”.

It it was around the Greek word ἐκκλησία and its Latin equivalent ecclesiathat Christian theology developed.

The English word “church” was derived from the Greek word “kyridakon” which wasn’t even used in the Greek during New Testament times and isn’t found anywhere in the New Testament.

Actually it comes from the Greek through the Old English cirice/circe from the West German kirika. Thus its usage, while not in the New Testament, is much older than you would give. But this is all irrelevant since Christian theology was developed in Greek and Latin, not English!

56 posted on 09/12/2013 6:31:30 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: CynicalBear

“Iglesia” is church in Spanish. As to our understanding of “Church,” that depends on whether you are talking about Luther’s “psychic” understanding or Calvin’s more practical meaning. And, no Ekklesia meant assembly in the sense of a coming together of the members of the Polis, which means something more corporate than “congregation.” Protestantism is, of course, so relentlessly attached to philology because it starts out being led, most powerfully, by a professor of Old Testament. Naturally it sees the church as gatherings of individuals listening to hours of exposition of Scripture.


63 posted on 09/12/2013 8:34:13 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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