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To: RobbyS
>>As to our understanding of “Church,” that depends on whether you are talking about Luther’s “psychic” understanding or Calvin’s more practical meaning.<<

I suppose if a person is that shallow or new to the faith that would be the case. Those who wish to discuss in depth however would want to understand what the apostles wrote and what words they used and what they mean. You see, the apostles taught that if it didn’t come from them it was to be considered “another gospel” and the preacher of that gospel was to be “accursed”. “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8-9

I’m sure you would agree that it would be wise to stay with what the apostles taught. If not, well…………..you can read the verse.

You can be assured I will not believe anything the apostles didn't teach.

68 posted on 09/13/2013 11:22:10 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
Well if by faith, you mean who is substantially Luther’s faith. THere is a reason why the term “Protestant” has stuck to those many denominations who today prefer the term evangelicals, because they think that they have the “true gospel.” Protestant prefers to those who reject not only the authority of Rome but of the traditional Catholic Faith followed in the East. Protestants were Latin Christians who rebelled not only against Rome but also the idea of the apostolic succession. Rejecting bishops in the traditional sense, they chose to follow outlawed priests such as Luther and Zwingli or lay theologians such as Calvin.

Luther claimed as the indictment at Worms says to be wrong and what the church had said for fifteen hundreds years was wrong. He believed he was right in saying this because of his own studies of the Scripture and on must assume that he was directly inspired by the Holy Spirit to read it all correctly. You make the same claim, and argument for or against such a thing is really futile.

69 posted on 09/13/2013 12:41:29 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: CynicalBear
I’m sure you would agree that it would be wise to stay with what the apostles taught.

Which is why I am Catholic. Peace.

70 posted on 09/13/2013 1:20:48 PM PDT by Petrosius
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