Posted on 09/19/2013 8:46:24 AM PDT by Alter Kaker
Pope Francis, in the first extensive interview of his six-month-old papacy, said that the Roman Catholic church had grown “obsessed” with preaching about abortion, gay marriage and contraception, and that he has chosen not to speak of those issues despite recriminations from some critics.
In remarkably blunt language, Francis sought to set a new tone for the church, saying it should be a “home for all” and not a “small chapel” focused on doctrine, orthodoxy and a limited agenda of moral teachings.
“It is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time,” the pope told the Rev. Antonio Spadaro, a fellow Jesuit and editor in chief of La Civiltà Cattolica, the Italian Jesuit journal whose content is routinely approved by the Vatican. “The dogmatic and moral teachings of the church are not all equivalent. The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
You should get your money back!
This pope is going to make a dandy False Prophet for Prince Charles to dance with.
I wonder who he is cheering in Syria?
I watched part of the interview on TV. It seems Pope Feel-Good is at it again, and leaving it for all his loyal followers to try to figure out a way to twist his words into orthodoxy.
Straw man argument.
News Flash: Roman Catholcism merges with Methodist Chruch!
Very well written. Why do we talk about the wrongs of homosexual acts much more than we have in the past? It's because of the constant bombardment of gay indoctrination we've been seeing in the past 10 years. Of course we're going to defend traditional relationships harder under such and onslaught!
Good gravy, as a Catholic, I'm not liking this pope very much. Figures that he's a Jesuit.
There’s a good reason he’s the Pope now but IMHO it falls into the “God works in mysterious ways” category.
Reading the complete interview I cannot find where the Pope says”the Church had grown “obsessed” with preaching about abortion ...”Maybe someone can help me.
Stick your head in the sand much?
You know, there’s a reason that Luther rejected the papacy...
/gentle teasing :)
Yeah, yeah,more blah, blah,blah, from someone who rejects Jesus Christ as their and instead relies on Rabbinical Pharisees to define their personal Self Alone substitute for Christianity.
When someone only accepts the Anti-Christ Pharisee Approved Luther Subset of Scripture rather than the entire Bible what they have to say with regard to Scripture is by definition based on an incomplete understanding of the Word of God. Furthermore, their individual interpretations are self-serving and not even consistent with the portion of Scripture they do claim to accept.
No matter what such people claim to the contrary and whether they realize it or not, such people worship their own, Most High and Holy Self because that's who they claim is superior to His Word; their Self and Self Alone.
Keep on following in the foots steps of Eve rather than following Jesus Christ if you like but don't think people can't see through the hollow and baseless prophecy trash and recognize it for what it really is; just another conspiracy theory that sells well.
As a PCA-Presbyterian, I agree with your entire post.
Cool tagline, btw.
The SSPX knew the invitation to regularization would be a bait and switch.
His welcome would have been different had he spat in his father's face and demanded that he also eat from the swine's trough.
On Twitter:
@NARAL
Dear Pope Francis, thank you. Signed, #prochoice women
If the Pope keeps this liberal garbage up much longer he’ll be replaced. I think so far he’s a joke as a the leader of the Catholic Church. The only people that like him are liberals and protestants that hate the Catholic Church. The Cardinals that chose him had to know how liberal he was on social issues. Of course he can’t change Church dogma. He can’t say homosexual acts are not a sin. He has to say it is a disorder and a sin if you act out on them. He can’t go against the Bible and say it’s OK to murder the unborn. He can’t ordain women. Where this Pope is going to be a dismal failure is not speaking out on this issues, when the world is being taken over by sodomites and baby killers. He needs to be the leader of the Church on this evil. He needs to understand that as Pope he has the duty to lead his flock in the way of the Cross. I think if this man had his druthers he would be preaching in some small South America parish, washing everyone’s feet a couple of times a year. I see him as the wrong man to lead the Church at this critical time in Church history.
Never heard a homily on the evils of abortion, unnatural marriage or divorce. The Pope is absolutely wrong when he says the Church is obsessed with these issues. It’s the liberal media that’s obsessed. The Pope needs to read more and get out more and quit acting like he’s a small town priest. He likes to be told what to do. He freely admits this. He likes a lot of “advisors” around. Hopefully these advisors will remind him what his duties and responsibilities are as Pope. He obviously doesn’t know.
At this point I am just deeply saddened by Francis I.
Read what's between the quotes and take the rest with a grain of salt.
In this excerpt from a wide-ranging interview, the pope is speaking about the pastoral care of homosexuals.
Church teaching regarding sodomy and abortion has never changed, and it never will.
One example is leaving out the word "only."
The NYT states,
Asked what it means for him to “think with the church,” a phrase used by the Jesuit founder St. Ignatius, Francis said that it did not mean “thinking with the hierarchy of the church.”
But in the interview Francis states, in the context of devotional application of doctrine re the Mary of Catholicism,
We should not even think, therefore, that ‘thinking with the church’ means only thinking with the hierarchy of the church.”
Of course, both the doctrine and devotion of the Mary of Catholicism goes far beyond what it written in the gospels, in which Ratzinger affirms was rather marginal, and extends into unScriptural claims.
In addition, accurately representing what Rome and the pope teaches and defending it can see some varying interpretations even by RCs,as seen often here.
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