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Are We Really Catholic Bashing?
reachingcatholics.org ^ | Unknown | Mike Gendron

Posted on 09/24/2013 7:08:17 AM PDT by jodyel

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To: Gamecock

Thank you, Gamecock.


201 posted on 09/25/2013 4:26:05 AM PDT by jodyel
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To: mlizzy

If I thought arguing in the flesh would help, I would respond. But as we have all seen, it does not. And so that is why I wish to wait on those the Spirit draws. This is a spiritual battle and is not fought against flesh and blood and will not be won in the flesh.

Thanks, mlizzy.


202 posted on 09/25/2013 4:29:18 AM PDT by jodyel
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To: WVKayaker
As for your quote from Matthew (which didn't bother to say what chapter it would be found), what does that have to do with the price of eggs?
Did you pause to think that I simply forgot the chapter, rather than me not "bothering" to say where it was found, and I thought it was a good verse (maybe it's not to you; if so, I apologize), as you stated that Catholics feel they are the only ones to be saved. The verse states clearly that anything is possible with God [regarding saving].

Purgatory makes great sense. No one enters heaven without getting rid of their filth. Do you think it just "magically" happens that after your heart stops beating, Christ's grace changes you somehow? Why would one not have to go over all the slights, sins, and sorrows they caused to others while here on earth? Very few escape purgatory is my belief. And one could never be prayed out of hell. Do you think Catholics believe that?

That's the beauty of purgatory (Jesus gives you the opportunity to improve), however, some "levels" of purgatory are just like hell, except you're looking up to the glorious future of heaven, and not down into hellfire. (As I was a great sinner as a lukewarm Lutheran, purgatory appealed to me; just one of the reasons that I became strongly interested in converting.)

Several saints have had visions of heaven, hell, and purgatory. To leave them out of the mix, is to shortchange oneself spiritually I believe. They are Christ's front line; they have fought for Him like True soldiers, and many have died martyrs for that very reason.
St. John Vianney - "We must say many prayers for the souls of the faithful departed, for one must be so pure to enter heaven."

203 posted on 09/25/2013 6:29:57 AM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy
Purgatory makes great sense. No one enters heaven without getting rid of their filth. Do you think it just "magically" happens that after your heart stops beating, Christ's grace changes you somehow?

hahahahahaaaa... More doctrines of devils!

I know it's difficult to understand, if you think God will give you a second chance. But, He gives you only one. You can try to be good, but fail every time. It is impossible to please God. All you can do is depend on Him, since it is faith in Him that saves, not anything we do or is there anybody that can pray us into His saving grace....

You should spend more time with ALL Scripture, and not just the ones that Rome tells you is good for their purposes. Paul is clear about the subject.

Romans 7: ...14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! ...

Romans 8: 8 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you[a] free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh,[b] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering.[c] And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. ...

204 posted on 09/25/2013 7:10:38 AM PDT by WVKayaker ("The only place that the left hasn't placed the blame is on their agenda..." -Sarah Palin)
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To: jodyel
If I thought arguing in the flesh would help, I would respond. But as we have all seen, it does not. And so that is why I wish to wait on those the Spirit draws. This is a spiritual battle and is not fought against flesh and blood and will not be won in the flesh.
I don't think "arguing" back and forth is good either jodyel, but I do believe everyone should defend their beliefs to the best of their ability [when questioned about them]; otherwise why even have them? But bottom line, I will respect your decision, and will always pray for you too, and I hope you're doing well. God be with you... ♥
205 posted on 09/25/2013 7:21:25 AM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: WVKayaker
It is impossible to please God.
So gloomy... I wouldn't even want to wake up in the morning if I thought that was true.
206 posted on 09/25/2013 7:28:20 AM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy

By all means, my friend, defend away. Do as you are directed.

As for me, I will wait upon the Spirit of the Lord.

I am very well, thanks, and you?

God bless,
jodyel


207 posted on 09/25/2013 7:30:52 AM PDT by jodyel
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To: jodyel
I am very well, thanks, and you?
Fine my FRiend, thank you! The weather is superb in the Chicago area today, so much can be accomplished in the great outdoors. Replanting the seeds our border collie plowed through yesterday, painting a dresser I found for free, walking the dogs so they are less prone to misbehave, etc. etc..... and so on.. :)
208 posted on 09/25/2013 9:52:51 AM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy

Very much envy you your lovely weather there. I am in Texas and sweating like a pig!

Enjoy the day!


209 posted on 09/25/2013 11:26:15 AM PDT by jodyel
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To: NKP_Vet

I didn’t think you would understand that post. The arrogance of Catholics is astounding. They take credit for what God did. Judas was also used of God as was Harrod. Benny Hinn started out as a very good teacher on scripture. Now look at him. The RCC corrupted not only scripture but the entire concept of service to God.


210 posted on 09/25/2013 12:38:22 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: mlizzy
"It is impossible to please God." -wvk

So gloomy... I wouldn't even want to wake up in the morning if I thought that was true. -liz

There's nothing gloomy about my life. I look forward to waking up because I know what God has promised me.

You see, that is where Satan has been most successful. The Catholic Church teaches that if you do this or do that, if you say this or say that, if you light a candle, that will help you become a better person. However, a proper study of ALL the Scriptures will just confirm what I have told you. I've already posted that portions from Paul's letter to Rome which speak directly to what I said. Paul admits that he cannot do the things that he wants to do (live a sinless life), and he still does those things which he does not want to do (we are all sinners). But thanks to God, our sins are purged through faith.

Scripture informs us that we are no longer bound to the law! The law is still there to reveal sin, but Christ's sacrifice is sufficient to cover us, through faith a(Not by works of righteousness, lest any man should boast). It can also read any woman.

There is no halfway house called Purgatory. That is a Catholic tradition that came rather late into the picture. Study your own organization's history a little bit and you will find the much of what they claim cannot be located within Scripture. They will teach you that their tradition is just as relevant as God's word. But, again study your organization's traditions, and there are so many that have just popped up out of the blue along the way.

I'll continue to pray for blind eyes to be opened by God's Holy Spirit. It's so easy to listen to traditions and pray to dead people in the hope that it will bring an advantage in your life, and in your personal journey through this world. But, contrary to the dogmas and traditions of the Roman Catholic organization, Mary is dead, all of your saints are dead, and those that trust in the organizational structure are place that above God's word may be lost. Only God knows our hearts.

I believe there is one church. The head of the church is Jesus Christ. The meeting place is in our hearts. The requirement for membership is quite simple. “You must be born again”! If one is born again, they are a new creation through Christ. They have been adopted into God's family has joint heirs with Christ. Everything that I'm telling you has been posted repeatedly on this thread and others, backed up by Scripture without interpretation. Is the work of the Holy Spirit of no avail? Is Christ's death to be measured by our assumed Holiness? The answer is clear.

I won't bother replying to your continual postings of Catholic doctrine, except with Scriptures. God's word will stand. The Roman Catholic Church will not pay the price with God.

Peters dead. Jesus is the rock!

I will finish by reposting the section from Romans 8...

RomansThe 8: 1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.

9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.

211 posted on 09/25/2013 1:24:09 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("The only place that the left hasn't placed the blame is on their agenda..." -Sarah Palin)
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To: mlizzy
Personally, I find your commentary condescending to Catholics. And sometimes I wonder if you have a life [outside of Free Republic] that is filled with the beauty and love of the Christianity you keep espousing.

For those who choose to participate in these Open Religion Forum threads, it's a good idea to leave behind ones "personal" feelings. It is not really your concern what my life is "outside of Free Republic" and it should be obvious that no one could speak of the beauty and love of genuine Christianity unless they DID experience it. There is plenty of Catholic condescension here if you are interested in objectively seeing it, so, please, don't worry about my spiritual health. Tend to your own.

212 posted on 09/25/2013 2:48:14 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: BlueDragon

213 posted on 09/25/2013 2:59:30 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
No worries. I think I recognize the type. Only 'aacks' at (cough, cough) Harold Camping followers.

We're probably safe around here?

214 posted on 09/25/2013 3:13:28 PM PDT by BlueDragon (.)
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To: BlueDragon
We hear some version of that on these pages EVERY STINKING DAY, but some here have the temerity to say "we never pick on you guys" sob-sob, sniff, sniffle...

We don't even need the "boys" to back up the truth that they are crocodile/alligator tears. ;o)

215 posted on 09/25/2013 3:27:09 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: mlizzy
Purgatory makes great sense. No one enters heaven without getting rid of their filth.

Purgatory can not clean your filth...Nothing can clean your filth...That's why Jesus died...

He took ALL of our filth and put it on himself, deemed us to be righteous...Not later but right now...The millisecond we trust him to be our Savior...

Rom_8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Joh_3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

216 posted on 09/25/2013 3:27:55 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: jodyel
I am in Texas and sweating like a pig!

Pigs don't sweat...

217 posted on 09/25/2013 3:33:11 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

They do in Texas....everything sweats here. lol


218 posted on 09/25/2013 3:41:35 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: boatbums
...and it should be obvious that no one could speak of the beauty and love of genuine Christianity unless they DID experience it...
I guess it's not obvious to me. I always feel like I'm being reprimanded when I read your posts, as you whip with His Words. Maybe you don't realize this, and maybe I'm the only one who feels this way.

I can almost see Jesus with pen and paper in hand, though, saying to all of us who debate [too much] online, "Yes, I've read your FReeper posts. Did you really feel it was necessary to bicker so much over "Me"? Building a garden and planting weeds would have helped your cause more."
219 posted on 09/25/2013 4:53:56 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: WVKayaker
I won't bother replying to your continual postings of Catholic doctrine, except with Scriptures.
You didn't like/understand my last Bible verse that I posted... so I'm giving up on that. As far as reading the Bible more (which you mentioned earlier), depending on your age, it's possible I've read even more than you have, as I have followed along [in the missal] when the priest reads the readings at daily Mass (for the last almost thirty years). And sometimes my husband and I would discuss the readings on the way home from Mass too (we used to walk, for years). A beautiful perfect! way to start each day. In regard to purgatory/St. Paul, Jimmy Akin is a smart guy and provides a good read: How to Explain Purgatory to Protestants.

And before you go, do "other" Born-Again Christians also feel that "It is impossible to please God"? It would explain their [sometimes] gnarly attitudes if so. I've never heard of anything so bleak..
220 posted on 09/25/2013 5:19:11 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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