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To: WVKayaker
Your indoctrination is thorough and you are convinced that everything they have told to is the only way that you can be saved...I have sent you Scriptures which directly refute your thoughts about saints and their abilities, and you come back with church dogma. That will send you straight to hell, yes.
Well, BS on that! I may serve years and years in purgatory, but I am not going to hell, unless I leave my Jesus; shame on you for even suggesting it. And I never suggested a non-Catholic couldn't be saved. Do you even understand the faith? What does Jesus mean when He says the following?
25* When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and said, “Who then can be saved?” 26* Jesus looked at them and said, “For human beings this is impossible, but for God all things are possible.” --Matthew: 25,26
And I do not know why anyone would insist the saints are dead. They are alive [for an eternity] and they reside in heaven.
"Is it possible that there are souls who do not understand what the Blessed Eucharist is? Who are insensible to the Divine Presence.....to the mysterious and fervent effusions of the Sacred Heart of my Jesus? O Heart of Jesus! Heart of love!" "Yesterday, in the presence of Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament I felt myself burning so fiercely that I had to go away. I felt stunned that so many could stay so close to Jesus and not be reduced to ashes. I felt that I would be consumed. Jesus is such a sweet and irresistible Lover; how can one fail to love Him with one's whole heart and soul? How can one not wish to be wholly united in Him, and consumed in the flames of His holy love?" --St. Gemma Galgani

193 posted on 09/25/2013 12:15:38 AM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy
Your indoctrination is thorough and you are convinced that everything they have told to is the only way that you can be saved...I have sent you Scriptures which directly refute your thoughts about saints and their abilities, and you come back with church dogma. That will send you straight to hell, yes. -wvk

You're right lizzy, and I apologize for that last remark as it's not up to me where someone ends up. However, you certainly cannot find any scriptural basis for the Catholic idea of purgatory. It just isn't there. As for your quote from Matthew (which didn't bother to say what chapter it would be found), what does that have to do with the price of eggs?

Again, you place emphasis when you ask, do I understand “the faith”. But you obviously mean the organization referred to as the Roman Catholic Church where you place your faith. That is where the problem really begins.

You see, I do have faith, a profound faith in Jesus Christ and can know that God has declared me to be a sinner. I admit it, I am a sinner, just like Paul spoke of himself numerous times in various letters which we call it Epistles. But just like Paul, I'm not concerned in the least about my future place with God. I have complete assurance that even though I am a putrid man on this earth, that by the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, through faith, God no longer sees my sin and has given me a total wash in redemption. I am fully cleansed from the bonds of sin and the law.

You can remain right where you are, and I will lose no sleep. I rest soundly, sleeping every night. I can do that because I believe in Jesus. You cannot provide Scripture that will justify everything your church claims. Even in your responses to me, you continue to spout church dogma and doctrine, and use Scripture without context. Your organization does a great job of indoctrination, and it starts from birth placing all of the legalistic requirements which will lead directly to the pits. I'm not saying there aren't some Roman Catholics who will be saved, but those that rely on your mother church and all of its misplaced ideas, unfounded in the word of God, should know that there is not going to be anybody that can pray them out of hell.

There is no purgatory. You either make it into heaven by the grace and mercy of God through faith in Christ Jesus, or you risk eternal separation. Eternity is a long, long, long, long, long, long time.

You may think that posting some woman's picture you including some nice words can help someone discover God's truth. If that woman is one of the Catholic saints, she's dead. That would be the last place Truth will be found. Look towards the first and most important place in God. Have a nice life. I am assured of my salvation and will continue to post truth against the heresies from Rome.

Romans 7: ...21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

Romans 8: 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:

“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”

37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Paul

AMEN! -wvk

195 posted on 09/25/2013 1:41:06 AM PDT by WVKayaker ("The only place that the left hasn't placed the blame is on their agenda..." -Sarah Palin)
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