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Report: Are Mormon Missionaries Safe While Serving The Church? [10 deaths]
MidUtahRadio.com ^ | Oct. 2, 2013 | Kathy Farnsworth

Posted on 10/03/2013 5:22:07 AM PDT by Colofornian

(Salt Lake City, UT) — With ten deaths involving missionaries with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, some are questioning the safety of the church’s youth. The “Salt Lake Tribune” asked the question of church officials, who said missionaries are safe and will continue to serve the church. The church noted three of the deaths were from natural causes, while four died from an illness. There are currently 75-thousand men and women serving the church on a mission worldwide, which is up 28-percent, primarily due to the church lowering the missionary age from 19 to 18.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: deaths; lds; missionaries; mormonism
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[1] 10 deaths among Mormon missionaries -- including three from "natural causes" [which seems high when we're talking about 18, 19, and 20 yo]... [2] Lots of Lds missionaries thru the years get "Dear John" letters from their girlfriends...

Perhaps Mormon parents should "rethink" entrusting missionary presidents & the entire Mormon proselyting enterprise and stop funding it all.

The same thing's been happening with all these weird Boy Scout deaths in Utah over these past few years...as the Mormon church runs most of the Boy Scout operations in Utah...and I didn't have to go back more than two years to highlight these 6 stories highlighting 7 Boy Scout deaths occurring in Utah or adjacent to it:
* Boy, 14, who died in accident at Utah Boy Scout camp is identified: Bruce “Rocky” Rhiddlehoover was run over by trailer
* Families of 2 hit by lightning sue Boy Scouts of America
* Another Boy Scout Killed In Utah, Second Death Of The Day Stuns The Scouting Community
* NV Couple Sues Boy Scouts Over Son’s UT Drowning
* Utah teen drowns in Supai Canyon during Boy Scout trip
* [And then this one involved a Utah teen drowning in the Grand Canyon]: Boy Scout from Utah drowns at Grand Canyon


1 posted on 10/03/2013 5:22:07 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

That is really an unfair question.

Really any missionary is unsafe no matter what part of the world they go to. I have had (Baptist) missionaries in my own family so believe me I know!


2 posted on 10/03/2013 5:26:40 AM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Colofornian; Morgana

Seems pretty safe to me, statistically. Some died from illness, probably would have died anyway. Some died in accidents, just like young adults in any occupation. Etc.


3 posted on 10/03/2013 5:32:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The heart of the matter is God's love. It always has been. It always will be."~Abp. Chaput)
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To: Colofornian

Fun fact: 100% of everyone who ever eats carrots will die. STOP EATING CARROTS.


4 posted on 10/03/2013 5:37:14 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Colofornian

OMG. I know you really dislike the Mormons and their church. To include in your links BOYSCOUTS who were aged 12 and out camping seems to be more than a little gratuitous.

The boys parents are suing for ridiculous reasons if you read the article. PLUS there is no indication that they are Mormons (I know Utah etc etc).

Some day I hope you find some peace


5 posted on 10/03/2013 5:41:00 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
It's pretty simple: If adults are poor spiritual caretakers of the young, parallels crop up in other areas of their caretaking as well.
6 posted on 10/03/2013 5:54:46 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

who cares?


7 posted on 10/03/2013 5:57:26 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Morgana

My wife uncle is a SBC pastor and have spent most of the past 20 years in Peru. He has been held up and robbed, and never sleeps outside of a high fence.


8 posted on 10/03/2013 7:08:03 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Defunding does work!! Anyone remember fate of the border fence????)
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To: Colofornian

Give it a rest. With the country truly falling apart and devolving into a complete communist state, it seems as if you are finding motes and ignoring logs


9 posted on 10/03/2013 7:16:57 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster; All
Give it a rest.

(Anti-First Amendment, too, eh?)

With the country truly falling apart and devolving into a complete communist state...

Unlike the Silent Generation, which was able to multi-task and take on more than one opposition at a time during WWII -- on multiple fronts each -- too many conservatives (like yourself) can't seem to be bothered with more than a solo task staring them in the face...No wonder we can't fight public battles effectively today.

And...from an eternal perspective, even what is going on in the USA today is merely but a backyard bonfire compared to the fires of hell.

To cite Jesus: 4 “I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. 5 But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him."

No...don't fear the communists Jesus would tell Nifster...for communists are mere "motes" compared to eternal judgment.

10 posted on 10/03/2013 7:51:53 AM PDT by Colofornian
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In the news today a buseload of Baptists were in a bad accident and eight were killed.

And if memory these church related bus accidents happen some what frequency, does that mean Baptists are "poor guardians of their flock"?

I don't believe it but I don't believe Mormons nor Baptist, Methodists or Catholic missionaries wantonly put their believers in jeopardy. Accidents happen to all people, of whatever faiths or non believers.

11 posted on 10/03/2013 7:57:44 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: C. Edmund Wright
STOP EATING CARROTS.

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Yes, sir! If I must..

I hate carrots.

12 posted on 10/03/2013 8:00:04 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Colofornian

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”


13 posted on 10/03/2013 8:05:44 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: Nifster; Colofornian

No kidding.


14 posted on 10/03/2013 8:07:21 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: RedMonqey
In the news today a buseload of Baptists were in a bad accident and eight were killed. And if memory these church related bus accidents happen some what frequency, does that mean Baptists are "poor guardians of their flock"?

'Twas a chartered bus. As far as I know, the busdriver wasn't a baptist. So try another tact if you're wanting to make a point worth considering.

In contrast, let's take the Boy Scout comparison I made in my initial post: Lds churches treat the Boy Scouts like a church youth group. Its lay leaders are "called" to Boy Scout leadership positions...and thus, those are Lds members.

As such, they act as both direct SPIRITUAL and physical guardians of these kids.

Of course, accidents happen to all families -- no matter what stripe they wear. Of course, missionaries of all denominations have died.

What I am talking about is how there seems to be such a great concentration of these for a people group that is only 1.7% of our population.

15 posted on 10/03/2013 8:11:24 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: S.O.S121.500
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

Two examples just from the New Testament:

* "For, as I have often told you before and now tell you again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is set on earthly things." (Phillippians 3:18)

A glutton's god can be his/her tummy.

5 "Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry." (Colossians 3:5)

Greed can also be an atheist's "replacement" God.

It can also be lust. Or just self-worship in general.

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Aside from then this being simply a "mathematical" issue -- as your quote portends -- with Mormonism 'tis also an entirely different GOD altogether.

16 posted on 10/03/2013 8:14:42 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Fairy Tales or corrupted and bastardized history books constitute not a religion unless for cowards, hypocrites, and charlatans.

There is a reason your ancestors worshipped the sun....

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours

Key word: Understand


17 posted on 10/03/2013 8:25:01 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: Colofornian
'Twas a chartered bus. As far as I know, the busdriver wasn't a baptist.

And who chartered the bus? Mormons?

Your splitting hairs to support your viewpoint.

A internet search of "Boy Scouts" "Died" and "Accidents" reveal a long list of scouts dying in a list of various ways in various states and countries.

The very nature of scouting means they leave the safty of their homes and go to places and have adventures that have an element of danger.



Please quit "cherrypicking" your "facts" and see the whole picture.
18 posted on 10/03/2013 8:26:50 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: RedMonqey
Well, it's probably safer to be a missionary than to be a college student in America.

I read recently where 4000 or so college students die every year.

19 posted on 10/03/2013 8:34:52 AM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: RedMonqey
And who chartered the bus? Mormons? Your splitting hairs to support your viewpoint.

RM, please review your post #11. What was the focus?
a. "guardians"
b. "flock"

Is a chartered budriver a "shepherd" of his "flock"???

20 posted on 10/03/2013 8:36:21 AM PDT by Colofornian
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