Posted on 10/04/2013 2:11:50 PM PDT by jodyel
How preposterous. Changing the meaning of scripture to somehow support your “theories” will not serve you well. Trying to claim that all who are saved are genetic descendents of the Israelites is tantamount to denying God’s word.
Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
>> “Yet here you are promoting it as fact.” <<
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The argument is soundly settled by the work of two men:
“Shattering the Conspiracy of Silence” by Karaite Jewish scholar Nehemia Gordon, and “His Hallowed Name Revealed Again” by Christian minister and Torah scholar Keith Johnson.
Neither of these two books leave the slightest doubt but that Yehova is demanding our use of his true name, not a facsimile.
Both books are loaded with detailed scriptural evidence that leaves no room for doubt.
It is you that attempted to change not just the meaning, but the words too, in Post #938
Yeah sure, over 5000 Greek manuscripts were somehow all changed by some mysterious group which God could not thwart. Yeah, we all believe that I’m sure. NOT. People who cast doubt on the word of God which has been preserved for us today should be shunned and rebuked.
When will you post without a childish strawman, instead of an honest addressing of the issues?
There is no mystery who wanted the word of Yehova turned on its ear: The Roman Catholic Church.
Oh give us a break. The Greek transcripts we have date long before any RCC ever existed.
No, I doubt completely.
Dude, you came in here and claimed that only 95% of what we have as the New Testament is accurate.
I claimed nothing. I cited, with proof. And while you seem to have latched onto 95% incessantly, you neglect the further 3% that can be readily deduced, so the honest number would approach 98%. But as I said, 100% is not attainable, which you obviously know is true, or you would have provided me with the 100% accurate exemplar MS that I requested more than once. Put up or shut up.
Yet you only have the “theory” of some guy who says ”Until they are proven (and mine has not been proven) they should not be used as a surety for belief." and your doubts?
I am not relying on 'some guy' at all. That is your hangup. I didn't quote him.
I AM relying on the fact that the evidence exists.
AND I am aware that the same abuse happened before among the Jews (like so many other things that plague Christendom). It is highly probable, if not provable (like with the KJV translation) that the custom of the Jews is the source of the abuse, borrowed by the Christians.
AND I am relying on the fact that the Spirit would not break the Torah in order to systematically cover up the Name of YHWH.
May God have mercy.
Indeed.
The RCC selected which MS were to be gathered and saved, and changed or destroyed the rest.
Much effort was put into that enterprise. Eusebius even added words to several MS to achieve his 3.5 year ministry of Yeshua to justify the pope.
>> “You boys can go start your own cult.” <<
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Can’t be done!
You have cornered the market on cults here with your flexible, re-definable ‘scriptures’ and no one else can afford the license.
That simply isn't true - There are tiny fragments - mostly of the Alexandrian family... There is the Bodmer Codex, which had Jude and peter 1&2 c.250... But by far and away, the extant copies of note are after Constantine.
*shrugs* A faith that requires residing in ignorance doesn't seem to be well anchored. Just sayin'. To deny textual criticism is to deny reality. The text isn't suddenly going to miraculously agree, each with the others.
And I too believe His promise - I just don't believe it is ensconced within text on paper... Obviously it isn't or the text on paper would be perfect, which it isn't. That doesn't mean the promise isn't kept.
Ahh! You caught the out-of-place passover too, I reckon... Nice to know I am not the only one! I don't know how you came to blame it on Eusebius, but I bet that's got somewhat to do with it...
Prior to Eusebius, all of the commentators stated that Yeshua’s ministry was “about one year.” Eusebius was the first to say it was 3.5 years.
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