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Catholic Vote ^ | October 5, 2013 | STEVE SKOJEC

Posted on 10/05/2013 4:02:58 PM PDT by NYer


There have been a lot of comments on my piece from yesterday pertaining to the prohibition on furloughed GS or contract priests saying Mass at US military installations. A number of people have raised questions over the legal provisions surrounding this situation, and some have said this situation is no different than that facing every furloughed government worker.

I’m no attorney, but I’ve done some digging. In an attempt to answer some of these questions, I’d like to share what I’ve found.

The governing regulation concerning furloughed federal workers is the Antideficiency Act of 1884. As the story goes, the Executive branch started overstepping its bounds pretty early on in American history. Presidents got into the bad habit of signing contracts obligating the country financially for something or another, and Congress — which constitutionally has the “power of the purse” — found itself backed into a corner. Following the Civil War, legislation was passed that made it far more difficult for this sort of thing to happen: the Antideficiency Act. The purpose of this legislation was to keep the Executive branch of government from obligating the country to pay debts for which there was no congressional authorization.

Over the years, the Antideficiency Act (ADA) was treated with greater or less reverence. From Matthew Yglesias at Slate:

Back in the 1970s there were a whole series of appropriations lapses driven by House/Senate disagreement about abortion. What happened then was basically what happens now with “essential” workers—people keep doing their jobs, it’s just that they don’t get paid. Then when Congress worked out its disagreement, it would also pony up the money for back pay. In a sense this made appropriations lapses “too easy,” to the Justice Department changes the interpretation and now federal workers can’t work. Unless, that is, they’re essential in which case they must work.

The application of this law seems murky at best. Many have noted that the police on Capitol Hill involved in this week’s shooting were repeatedly described as “unpaid” due to furlough. Similarly, the National Weather Service team monitoring the approach of tropical storm Karen are furloughed and unpaid. At some point, people are determined by their particular agency to be “essential” or “nonessential” according to guidelines which, if we’re being honest, aren’t entirely clear. The OMB outlines these and even states that agency heads must develop and maintain plans for an impending shutdown which, among other things, must include ”The agency’s legal basis for each of its determinations to retain categories of employees, including a description of the nature of the agency activities in which these employees will be engaged.”

Andrew Cohen at The Atlantic rounded up some experts on the ADA and has offered the most thorough analysis I’ve seen so far. But the arbitrariness of categorization on who can and can’t come to work or volunteer their time seems endemic to the ADA:

The act “definitely applies to government employees and officials of the core executive and independent agencies,” Harvard Law Professor Howell E. Jackson, a budget and regulatory expert, told me. This means the vast majority of federal workers will be told to go home next week in the absence of a budget deal. Those who get to stay will come from two groups — one in which federal workers have been explicitly exempted and one in which workers have been deemed to be “essential” through analysis. “It’s complicated,” Jackson said, “where the lines are drawn and sources of legal authority are not precise.”

So we see that explicit exemptions can and are granted, though Professor Jackson does not indicate by whom. But the historical example cited – the Food and Forage Act of 1861, is a pretty interesting one. It specifically grants the Department of Defense the ability to obligate funds before appropriations are made. Its powers are broad, and it has been used in a number of circumstances. In fact, it seems the perfect loophole to the ADA to get priests back to saying Mass on our bases without obstruction. Then again, as I said, I’m no attorney.

So unless and until such action is taken, what we are left with is the law. I have been asked if priests could really face arrest for saying Mass on base while furloughed. (And let’s remember – these restrictions apply to the contracted services of said priests, not their sacerdotal powers given through the sacrament of Holy Orders. If they have jurisdiction, they can say Mass anywhere else they like.) The restriction is laid out in 31 USC 1342:

An officer or employee of the United States Government or of the District of Columbia government may not accept voluntary services for either government or employ personal services exceeding that authorized by law except for emergencies involving the safety of human life or the protection of property. This section does not apply to a corporation getting amounts to make loans (except paid in capital amounts) without legal liability of the United States Government. As used in this section, the term “emergencies involving the safety of human life or the protection of property” does not include ongoing, regular functions of government the suspension of which would not imminently threaten the safety of human life or the protection of property.

The consequences for violating 31 USC 1342 are spelled out in 31 USC 1350:

An officer or employee of the United States Government or of the District of Columbia government knowingly and willfully violating section 1341(a) or 1342 of this title shall be fined not more than $5,000, imprisoned for not more than 2 years, or both.

So the short answer is yes, these priests can be arrested if they defy the furlough and say Mass on base. They can be charged, imprisoned, and fined. Will they be? Let’s hope not. But the threat alone is enough to cause sufficient concern.

Our military chaplains - not only Catholics, but of every denomination – should be granted an exemption from these requirements and allowed to volunteer so that they may minister to the spiritual needs of our soldiers. The religious liberty of our men and women in the armed forces and those who minister to them are at stake.

TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Politics; Worship
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; military; obamacare; zerocare

1 posted on 10/05/2013 4:02:58 PM PDT by NYer
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So the short answer is yes, these priests can be arrested if they defy the furlough and say Mass on base. They can be charged, imprisoned, and fined. Will they be? Let’s hope not.

Catholic ping!

2 posted on 10/05/2013 4:03:31 PM PDT by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: NYer
Why is the all the talk only about priests? Are mullahs (or whatever is the priest equivalent is to mooselimbs) exempt from this "policy"?

I've been searching, but I can't find a word about any other religions being affected. Were military mooselimbs able to hold Friday prayers or not?

3 posted on 10/05/2013 4:10:22 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: NYer

I would be honored to be arrested for preaching the Gospel.

4 posted on 10/05/2013 4:25:29 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: neodad

These priest have an opportunity to move up to the level with Peter and Paul. Or they can show who they really serve.

5 posted on 10/05/2013 5:17:57 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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6 posted on 10/05/2013 5:22:49 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: neodad
I would be honored to be arrested for preaching the Gospel.

Before it even got that far, I'd tell them, "feeling lucky, punk?", and give them a sample of the pro bono cross examinations they'd face in a high-profile Article 32 hearing I'd demand as my UCMJ rights. I'd subpoena the whole chain of command (gotta find out who originated the official order), and see who gets to fall on his bejeweled sword before the CinC has to put his historic ass on the hot seat.

It would be difficult to go to trial after that, because of the difficulty of finding enough of a court martial board to keep a straight face long enough to dismiss all charges with prejudice. :)

7 posted on 10/05/2013 5:47:43 PM PDT by 300winmag (Whatever CAN go wrong has already happened. We just don't know about it yet.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Priests will be celebrating the Holy Mass every single day, even when alone, or attend one, whether anyone is there or not. It is not a condition that anyone be present for the Sacrifice.

Given there are a lot more enlisted and military personnel than there are such a tiny number of priests available, will those in the military break post to attend Holy Mass down town, or wherever?

8 posted on 10/05/2013 5:49:58 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: jeffc

Priests are the shortage group of chaplains in the US military. The notion of “general protestant” renders most need for contract protestant chaplains moot. General protestant means that any protestant congregation can be led by any protestant chaplain.

There are exceptions where, for example, such a large group of southern Baptists soldiers exist at an installation that they start a “Baptist service” instead of a “general protestant service”. In that case, a southern Baptist chaplain most likely would be the designated chaplain for that congregation. It is possible that they might appoint a non-military pastor or a non-chaplain pastor to lead that congregation, but it most likely would not be on a contract basis.

The shortage of priests make it necessary to contract with priests since about a quarter of the military is Catholic.

About a third of our troops are some variety of Baptist or baptistic denomination, but there are large numbers of Baptist chaplains, especially southern Baptist.

9 posted on 10/05/2013 5:50:08 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
All of this is nonsense. You and I know that they would be our guest.
10 posted on 10/05/2013 6:16:13 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: NYer

bet the mussies get their 5 times a day prayers

11 posted on 10/05/2013 6:46:58 PM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: neodad

It would be great honor to be arrested on Obama’s orders.

12 posted on 10/05/2013 7:23:19 PM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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