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To: vladimir998

“So, you honor the Lord but have no love for Him?”

Did I say that? No. So why are you trying to play word games? As I said, they are two separate things, and the devotion is the issue, not love.

“Yes, there is. Do you love those people or not? Have any pictures of them around the house? Ever celebrate their birthdays, anniversaries, accomplishments, etc.?”

There’s no equivalency. I am not engaging in any acts of religious devotion, no dulia, hyperdulia, latria, or whatever else you want to call it.

“If you can do those things for your family AND LOVE THEM TOO OF COURSE and yet also love Jesus, then you have room for saints in your life too.”

Stop trying to confuse the issue. Love and religious devotion are two separate things. All religious devotion belongs to God, and Scripture states many times that He is a jealous God, and that ALL glory and praise belongs to Him, and Him alone. If you want to argue with that, take it up with God. Arguing with me won’t accomplish anything, because I didn’t make the rules.


44 posted on 10/10/2013 6:16:52 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

“As I said, they are two separate things, and the devotion is the issue, not love.”

Loving someone must entail some devotion (I do not mean the religious sense). If you love your wife, you’ll be devoted to her. You can be devoted to more than one person (e.g. wife and children).

“I am not engaging in any acts of religious devotion, no dulia, hyperdulia, latria, or whatever else you want to call it.”

So you don’t worship God? That’s latria. I DO engage in latria. . . and dulia . . . and hyperdulia. I worship God and honor the saints.

“Stop trying to confuse the issue. Love and religious devotion are two separate things.”

But we already know, don’t we, that you can love more than one person and be devoted to more than one person at the same time. I doubt you would deny that you can love your wife and kids at the same time. The same goes for devotion. Now, can you be religiously devoted to God and the saints at the same time? Yes, you just would be devoted to both in the same degree because God is different. Even in being devoted to and loving your wife or in being devoted to and loving your kids God has a role to play.

“All religious devotion belongs to God, and Scripture states many times that He is a jealous God, and that ALL glory and praise belongs to Him, and Him alone.”

So you don’t honor scripture then? If you honor scripture as being more than just a book, then you are not giving all religious devotion to God alone no are you?

“If you want to argue with that, take it up with God.”

Why would I do that when I clearly agree with Him and you apparently don’t?

“Arguing with me won’t accomplish anything, because I didn’t make the rules.”

No, you are making up rules. Again, are you devoted to scripture? Do you honor it?


67 posted on 10/10/2013 8:32:52 PM PDT by vladimir998
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