Skip to comments.An American Dream Revealed:Our Transition of Faith (From Mormon)
Posted on 10/11/2013 6:51:02 AM PDT by colorcountry
Our Transition of Faith
Everyone knows the story about our political ups and downs, if you dont you can read back to the beginning of our blog. But what no one knows, and what we didnt expect to come out at this time is the story about our religious transition.
Recently, a door opened that offered Carl an opportunity to run for the Utah State Legislature, a position that he once held and thoroughly enjoyed. My first instinct was to say, H*ll no! But, since I dont use that sort of language, I settled for, I know youll make the right decision, Dear. Then I went into a three hour lecture on how simple and sweet life has been this past year.
Our Utah House Representative recently accepted the position as Lieutenant Governor, which means that his seat is now open for someone else. Being a person with much political ambition, Carls phone immediately blew up with calls from political friends as well as those in the media wondering if he was going to run for the position.
Ill be honest; the pull to politics is strong, even for me. I enjoyed the five years he was in the legislature. It was a wonderful opportunity for our entire family as we grew leaps and bounds in our knowledge of the working government and the issues. We developed many lasting friendships as well as a strong sense of patriotism. It was an amazing overall experience.
The Congressional loss brought about a different kind of opportunity for our family. It taught us humility. Faced with multiple options at the time of the loss, we decided to make decisions without really seeking Gods help. Boy, did He teach us! He allowed us to stumble to an all-time low in order to convince us to look up and say, God, you are in control. As soon as we accepted this knowledge, the doors opened for the right path that we needed to follow. That path brought us to Gunnison.
Fast forward a year, and now we are faced with another open door to politics. What a tricky spot to be in as we have questioned whether this is a test or an opportunity. Ultimately, and with much faith, we have decided that this is not the right time. However, God works in mysterious ways, and this wasnt all for nothing.
I mentioned that the media has been inquiring about his status. Salt Lake Tribune writer, Paul Rolly, finally reached Carl and asked about his religious beliefs of all things. Specifically, Have you left the LDS Church?
The answer is yes. Yes, we have left the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, also known as Mormonism. We did so this year, but looking back, the process that got us here has been ongoing for many years. It wasnt that we were lazy in our religion or faith, nor was it because we were offended or desired to be sinful. The reasons are much deeper and varied but wont be shared at this time. Rest assured we have felt Gods guiding hands through the entire process.
Most of our family and some of our friends already knew about our transition, but many close and very dear friends did not know. We were not trying to keep it a secret; rather we were waiting for the right opportunity to tell others.
Some of you will be shocked, possibly hurt that we have made such a decision. Those of you who are active and faithful members in the church will sincerely question why, but you may hesitate to ask in fear of learning our response. A few will choose to believe we have been misled by Satan. The day I told my family about our decision, my brother posted a picture on Facebook of the Kool-aid man in jest. Theres no doubt that we will be watched closely by many and even judged by some. But there will also be those who are going through a personal crisis of faith who will reach out to us for help.
Although our political beliefs in individual liberty and freedom are as strong as ever, this was not the time for us to enter back into politics. However, the door was opened for a reason. We would love to share our testimony of faith to those who are seeking a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
We should keep the Wimmers in our prayers.
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
A follower of Christ would know this.
SPANK! -- A follower of Christ
Never heard that violence before, they do however shun even families and it is not uncommon to lose your job.
Mormonism has quite a violent history. There’s lots written about it out there.
Wonderful scripture - you can hit me all day long with the work of God, I rejoice! Is there a reason you use King James English?
Do I take it, since your immediate response was to question my faith, that you will not join me in praying for the Wimmers?
Powerful, darkly satanic forces of the foreign, and most sexually foul Mormon sort are gathering against them. Should we not offer them any protection?
Why will you not join me in prayer?
What’s wrong with the King James version?
Joe Smif were a man of piece. He got a piece o her and a piece o her and...
Are we a cult too? Should I seek God's forgiveness, and your approval?
Not a thing wrong with it. I just asked why you use King James English.
How do you know I am not Mrs. Wimmer? ;)
What is your problem laotzu? You have a problem with a Mormon Republican politician turning to Christ?
I just don’t get it.
But thanks just the same for bumping the thread and showing your bias and hypocrisy.
Obvious. Mrs Wimmer would have thanked me, and joined me in prayer.
I heard she's a Christian, and that's what we do.
No prayers from you though.
Leftist hippies showing up at FreeRepublic to bash religion.
Oh, Shiz.......here we go again.
You heard right about Mormonism being a cult, but I seriously doubt that the Mormon false church has "spies and kidnappers everywhere".
What? My approval? What the heck are you talking about? The Gospel of Christ versus a satanic cult? Seriously? And, no, I'm not talking about any denominations, just the Bible.
Oh, are you accusing me of being a leftist hippie?... Because Jim Rob, Sheila and Chris know me personally.
“Are we a cult too? Should I seek God’s forgiveness, and your approval? “
Baptists are Christians, unless you are in a group that denies the deity of Christ, etc.
You should always seek forgiveness, if you’ve sinned. Examine your heart.
You only need His approval
You knew all that, right?
I guess because he was quoting a passage from the King James version of the Bible.
Oh and another thing, oh follower of Chinese philosopher....Mormonism IS a religion, but not Christian.
As far as I understand, FR supports Christianity, not just any ol’ ‘religion.’
Yes, that is why.
Oh Yeah! An previously LDS “politician” has left a religion that celebrates God our Heavenly Father and his Literal Son Jesus Christ for the
Three in one, sometimes three, sometimes one, but nver really one and never really three non-biblical political compromises of the Godhead from the 4th, 5th and 6th centuries!
Yes those marevelous political/religious inventions which God subsequently showed his great appreciation for by allowing the authors of this invention, the Roman Empire and it to crash into the dustbid of history ..... And God then also ceases to talk to mankind until Joseph Smith because clearly no one on earth with those biblical political non-biblical compromises will listen to him anylonger!
Witness 2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
Personally I thin it’s ironic that you celibrate an LDS politician’s rejection of the LDS doctrine of Christ’s parantage to accept the 4th century politicians construct the Christian religion.
It is odd the hysterics that ignite when one offers prayer.
You love Mormonism. I have no doubt that you don’t celebrate a man and his wife coming to Christ.
No. It is NOT a pro-religion thread. It is a celebration thread! A man and woman come to Christ is always reason to celebrate.
Lao, I do not join non-christians in prayer to whatever god they worship. “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.
I really don’t care if you have a problem with me not joining you in the mocking of this couple. When and what I pray for, and about, is between me and God.
The thread document was written by a mormon.
I commented I had not heard of such violence, I did not clarify, I meant in more modern times.
Shunning is typical, mormons who have left have lost families, friends, spouses, jobs that is current.
The replier mentioned the past violence and I agreed.
I really do not understand your reply.
Where are those anti-religious threads?
This is the Religion Forum, one would think a reasoned person would understand there will be discussion about religion, and sometimes it will be heated.
Where are these bashing religion threads you keep talking about?
Unless, you are talking about Christians who say it is about Christ not religion, that could be considered bashing religion.
mormonism is not Christianity.
God was not once a man as mormonism teaches
God did not have intercourse with Mary as mormonism teaches
God did not say you must work for Salvation as mormonism teaches
Jesus is eternal, mormonism does not teach that
God did not say Joseph Smith was equal to Christ as mormonism says
Just because mormonism has Christ in their name does not mean they are Christian, anymore than living in a garage make you a car.
What? FR doesn't endorse Zoroastrianism?
I find this thread educational in that it is a perfect example of the mocking and disdain commonly shown by mormons when someone is led away from the falsity of the mormon church to become one with Jesus. The mormon tendency to adopt an attitude of superiority is in full view here. Thanks for posting, CC.
How is that a “spank” exactly?
I find it interesting that a Baptist would defend the Mormon Church myself...
If you say so. But the words “sound doctrine” from a LDS member made me chuckle...
If you get an answer, ping me, I wasn’t getting it either.
The mass exodus within the Mormon church (thank God) continues!
What? It doesn't endorse Scientology either? Or Wiccan witches? Or Baptists who love to cite Buddhists?
And it doesn't endorse giraffe-icon lovin' ecumenical religionists?
(Of course, such people can still join Bahai...at least they more openly water down everything everybody believes in its attempted show of unification)
That isn’t a spank at all.
You guys forgot that FR doesn’t support Islam either. Tsk, tsk!
Laotzu's line of conservative thought that seems to underlie what can be at times bizarre comments tend to run along the lines of:
(a) The liberal media commonly bashes religion, especially the religious right.
(b) Mormonism is one piece of that religious right.
(c) Conclusion: Therefore, anybody who takes issue with Mormonism = equivalency of liberal media.
Of course, we know (c) doesn't necessarily follow (a) & (b) -- otherwise the Moonies could NEVER be theologically critiqued by anybody either because back in the 80s & into the early 90s, they, too, were heavily swimming in socio-political conservative circles...
We have seen on FR other FREEPERS who -- when a liberal media source was the source of a given Mormon thread -- have taken the op to bash that source as indeed "liberal"...and then they write off everything from that source.
Of course, if they lived next door to such a liberal; and the liberal knocked on their door at night upon seeing significant black smoke & flames coming from a portion of the house whose door was being knocked, I'd kind of find hard to believe the conservative would answer the door and say, "No, I don't believe you; you're a liberal; I'm going back to bed."
Liberals are usually 98%+ wrong on their perceived so-called "answers" to problems; but occasionally they at least are partially clued in to assessing some basic problems staring them in the face.
Some weathermen & pilots & paramedics & doctors are liberal, too. It doesn't mean that conservatives always ask them which they are before listening to their assessments or retaining their services at times.
So...given the Moonies' past socio-political conservatism (Moon was a for a time incarcerated by Communists), I suppose were enough Moonie expose' articles to pop up on FR, there Laotzu would be...with personal attacks, giraffe images, and hurled accusations of "liberals" toward anybody who dared to mention that Moon himself was the Messiah.
Not very "pro-religion" of them to do so...
Well, Muslims aren't very pro-abortion or pro-homosexuality, either. And...we hear they are VERY
So, Laotzu...given that reality...where exactly have you been hidin' out on all the anti-Muslim threads & comments ... and THOUSANDS of comments on FR???
If Muslims are so conservative on key social issues, why haven't you had the Muslims' back on FR?
Where have you been layin' low -- and why?
Where's your sense of standin' up to all those FR "bullies" who digitally pick on Islam?
If, as you seem to claim in posts #19 & #27 that you are so "pro-religion" that you take issue with both conservative & liberal sources who allegedly "bash" any given religion with some conservative leanings, where have you been on all these Muslim threads?
Obama's been linked THOUSANDS of times on FR threads to Islam in some way.
Why haven't you had his back at least on these particular Muslim-related comments in the same way you've at times rushed in to defend Romney's Mormonism?
We're just puzzled, Laotzu over this seeming HUGE gap in your level of religious consistency & coherency here...
You can quote Tao Te Ching Post #156 and Lao tzu [same thread, post #121] ... so where are all your Muslim leader quotations, too...and other cultists?
Here, Laotzu you come across quite religiously tolerant & "ecumenical" (well, granted not toward us but hey, religious tolerance only goes so far as a "virtue" right???) ...
...yet your home page has yet to grab a quote from the...
...thousands of world religions & their offshoots,
...cults & sects,
...pagan polytheistic groups,
...ancient legends & mythologies,
...gurus -- self-help & otherwise,
...esoteric & mystical bands,
...& religious-oriented philosophers
...out there from time immemorial...
...ya might to get busy ... 'cause they are not yet getting equal visibility on your home page when you ONLY quote Lds "prophet" Ezra Taft Benson among all the cultist leaders out there that you have to choose from...
Can't really be fully religiously "ecumenical" if you're going to slight so many thousands of groups & worldviews, now can you?!