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To: narses
Jesus said this.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

But Catholics say He is wrong and that is the flesh that profits.

148 posted on 10/11/2013 7:24:48 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

“Unless You Eat the Flesh of the Son of Man and Drink His Blood You Have No Life In You.”


149 posted on 10/11/2013 7:35:15 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: CynicalBear

Jesus is referring to natural human nature, not His flesh, which is, of course, sinless, and perfect, and which exists by the divine act of being—i.e., by the same infinite act of being as the Word itself, Second Person of the Trinity.

If by “flesh” in this context, Jesus meant His own flesh, then the crucifixion and resurrection of His body would have profited the world nothing. It is precisely because HIS flesh DOES profit that He commanded us to receive it in the Eucharist. The flesh that profiteth nothing is OUR flesh.

In other words, you have ripped a few verses out of context, and indulged in the common error of assuming that a particular word, anywhere it appears in Scripture, always has precisely and exactly the same meaning.


153 posted on 10/11/2013 8:07:31 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: CynicalBear
But Catholics say He is wrong and that is the flesh that profits.
Nope. Like much of the tripe you post, false.
164 posted on 10/11/2013 8:37:48 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: CynicalBear
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

This is a perfect example of why sola scriptura is a a bad idea.

Jesus said THE flesh profiteth ...

He did not say MY or even THIS flesh....

Every single part of John 6 is about the flesh of Jesus being able to give (eternal) life to the world.

Notice the words of Peter John 6:68 Simon Peter answered him, “Master, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.

Jesus own direct words with out benefit of eisegesis' say that we must consume HIS FLESH.

224 posted on 10/12/2013 4:19:05 PM PDT by verga (Si hoc legere scis, nimium eruditionis)
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